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Originally posted by h1a8
Goober. How much damage do you think if Surfer could do to Thor with a 5 second continuous blast, giving his all? Thor just stands there and takes it of course.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
So if Superman INTENDS to damage a target with his HV it's not impressive that he does so successfully?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman was one of the four people who contributed in Damage absorbing enough energy to create a big bang.

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Spectre accelerated this process by pumping more energy into him and started the big bang

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer seemed to put the "time bomb" inside his lifeless body(or something to that effect) but he wasn't directly involved.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Pretty much impossible to say.

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Originally posted by Damborgson
That same scan says Waverider gave the combined team the feat basically. Its impossible to gauge how much was Supermans.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Waverider only altered the energy and did not amped it.

But how small percentage of a big bang can create a black hole? That should be the question.

Let's see how much mental gymnastic goober can do to make sure surfer's feat of creating a black hole is superior to that of participating in creation of a big bang.

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Originally posted by Damborgson
No way to know. -shrug-

You can alter water into ice and now it hits a lot harder if you throw it at someone.

Superman has better feats to pick from than such a shady one anyway.

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Originally posted by Damborgson
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That should be plenty.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
How is it shady? Turning water into ice doesn't changes its mass. Waverider only altered the combined energy, that was explicitly stated.

It's like Superman pulling up earth along with Hal Jordan is not as impressive as Luke Cage lifting a car because we don't know how much Superman contributed.

We're talking about two entirely different levels of power here.

Here it is Reiterated again.

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But you see, that doesn't makes Superman powerful. That makes Darkseid weak because obviously Superman can't be that powerful.

/darthgoober

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Originally posted by Damborgson
It's shady because his energies weren't just his energies. They were shared and then altered, and I don't know where that leaves Superman's feat. Impressive, but how impressive is highly open to interpretation.

Yeah, but put both in a bucket and pour them out, then compare which does more damage to a face. That's the vibe the feat gives me.

Well...in that case I think it's fair to assume he lifted more than a car, but hey.

Yeah, that is indeed a reiteration.

Unfortunately for my man Surfer, I don't even think he's ever won a beam struggle with anyone of note. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but his blasting is damn lack luster.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
It may be open to interpretation regarding how much he contributed to the big bang but to compare it to the energies necessary to create a black hole? Not even worth arguing.

It is not about damage. It's how much energy was needed and it was pretty much the biggest energy accumulation feat for any bunch of heralds.

See, I don't like these feats anymore than you do. But Surfer fans always fall back on "creating a black hole" as THE biggest feat for energy projection because they don't have anything other than meaningless space cheese.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A hecking lot, lol.

But wasn't Air Walker involved as well?

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Originally posted by h1a8
Goober. How much damage do you think if Surfer could do to Thor with a 5 second continuous blast, giving his all? Thor just stands there and takes it of course.

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Originally posted by Damborgson
Fair enough.

Almost the biggest energy acculturation, probably number two.


I mean it's a good feat too, don't get me wrong but for whatever reason Surfer has strangely low blasting showings for someone with that much potential power.

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Originally posted by Genii96
No,it was the discharge of surfer that caused it as a side effect

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Originally posted by Genii96
Didn't Thor himself admit that surfer could have killed him and his group with a warning blast?

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Originally posted by Damborgson
I mean it's a good feat too, don't get me wrong but for whatever reason Surfer has strangely low blasting showings for someone with that much potential power.

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Originally posted by abhilegend


What are you talking about? It's a nice space cheese feat but that's it. It's like asking how much energy it takes to create a big bang.



Reiterated again in Doomsday wars.

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Who the **** cares about these space cheese. Oh right, Surfer fans.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
But you see, that doesn't makes Superman powerful. That makes Darkseid weak because obviously Superman can't be that powerful.

/darthgoober

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Originally posted by abhilegend
It was Surfer intentionally creating a black hole. Nothing extraordinary about it when the seekers tanked the same blast.