this is not a high school. Everything i used in my diagram are widely acclaimed scientific facts. If you don't have the education to understand it, its time to stop debating.
and i'm not calling you stupid. you might have an iq of 300 but if you don't have the education to fathom advanced mathematics, that's not your fault, its a lack of education, not intelligence.
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Looking at you.
"widely acclaimed scientific facts" Like calling Trig, Algebra?
Here is a fact for you: If you truly understand something, then you can explain it to other people, and if you cannot explain your ideas, it is because you do not understand the topic you are trying to explain.
if i go their and ask the question i'll look stupid.. :P
i have an image to uphold in that community of like minded intellectuals.
they are liable to kick me out and proclaim me the village idiot..
surely someone of my stature cannot be allowed to be viewed in such a manner. i am sure you can understand perhaps with you having nothing to risk can enter said site with your dignity intact.
i like boobs :P
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Pretty much. Most religions are happy to trumpet their acceptance of scientific findings, up until the point where it starts to seriously challenge their beliefs. Currently in vogue is the practice of finding vague overlaps between religious texts and, say, astrophysics. This is selective interpretation, post-diction, confirmation bias, and probably some other logical fallacies I'm forgetting. Like any good pattern-seeking species, we can find all sorts of "connections" when we look for them. Doesn't mean that they are valid, especially when we must ignore so much that is contrary to our current knowledge in order to find occasional similarities.
Strictly speaking, though, empirical tests cannot comment on the transempirical: that is, they can't say anything about the supernatural (i.e. God, the idea of a soul, etc.). Scientific studies can, however, support, refute, or call into question religious claims of supernatural forces affecting material reality. This includes a wide array of religious and/or paranormal claims, and is what, unfortunately, creates the societal divide between the two camps in many cases.
As to the specific stories mentioned in the opening post like the Arc, flood, and so forth, those are obvious myths. They are pursued as scientific facts only by fringe groups who take a much more literalist approach to all portions of the Bible, not just the New Testament.
for instance, what is a tested hypothesis about religion that these people have produced, what is an experimental paradigm? etc.
It is the same as anyone. You hear things and you interpret it through the way you understand reality. Religious people are more than willing to accept some and disregard other scientific fact specifically because they are not actively involved in science. It is merely some tidbit of information they picked up that appears to have the credibility of the lab coat. They believe it because it conforms to what they already believe, not because of scientific methodology, which makes them just as willing to disregard as accurate and robust findings in other fields.
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