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not true, all pandora's box did was make kratos larger, the only godly power it gave him was size..other than that, it was his own natural fighting skills, speed and strength (proportioned to fit his new size) that defeated ares erm


Wrong. The narration alone confirms Kratos was imbued with the power of the Gods, as well as the weapon that the Gods gave to Kratos after he los the Blades of Chaos.

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I dislike how GOW makes the gods punks. I mean I love the gameplay and I like Kratos but all this punking of gods just rubs me the wrong way.

I always liked mythology but the gods should be above getting killed by mortals. In Norse myths only trolls were strong enough to take the gods.


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Kratos isn't a mortal.


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I dislike how GOW makes the gods punks. I mean I love the gameplay and I like Kratos but all this punking of gods just rubs me the wrong way.

I always liked mythology but the gods should be above getting killed by mortals. In Norse myths only trolls were strong enough to take the gods.


In Greek Myth, Ares got beat by humans. He was hurt badly and had to run.


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Kratos isn't a mortal.


As a God no, but any other Kratos=mortal, it's been said plenty of times. Even Demigods were mortal, I would say he was a "TRUE" demigod at the beginning of God of War II with half of his powers drained.


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@1:04 Gaia "The powers of the Gods unleashed" [maybe she meant the power of the Gods--put in Pandora's Box--was unleashed--something like that--because Ares said "You are still a mortal. "

Don't forget immorality & invincibility are two entirely different things.


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Ares meant that more figuratively than literally, if anything. What with him subsequently spending the entire fight spouting curses at Kratos.

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Well either way he has a mortal and god form.


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Kratos isn't a mortal.

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He is, after all, a son of Zeus.

We don't even have an idea who his mother is.. if she was a human or a goddess.(Most probably a human)


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If it was a goddess he would have been born 100% god so it has to be human. Kratos has never been human, hes 100% demi-god altho that is debatable now that he is holding the blade of Olmypus, amy theorise he has his God powers when holding it.


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Base Kratos is a full God, meaning he has an ultra dense body along with his collossal size, and base Kratos alone is phenomenolly physically powerful, God Kratos given his size would chuck a Star Destroyer.

And God Kratos is even more powerful than Ares, who IIRC killed an army with TK in an instant.


wtf, chuck a stardestroyer? Stardestroyers are huge:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Impe..._Star_Destroyer

1600 meters, almost an entire mile long

And Kratos had some difficulty tossing Colossus of Rhodes which would be miniscule in comparison to a star destroyer, the colossus of rhodes is what? 30 meters tall lol......

you think kratos has the strength to toss something over 50 times bigger? And thats the thing itself, if it had a crew complemant (it did when Apprentice pulled it down?) it would weigh even more. Then take into account its engines thrust.


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If it was a goddess he would have been born 100% god so it has to be human. Kratos has never been human, hes 100% demi-god altho that is debatable now that he is holding the blade of Olmypus, amy theorise he has his God powers when holding it.


Kratos has a human mother, so he is a demigod as you said, if he wasn't a mortal, Athena wouldn't have made him a God. "God powers"[you could be right it's possible he has power while holding The Blade], but if your counting the thing Zeus has done, you have to remember that Zeus /a god/ was holding The Blade, and not Kratos. He may have power but I doubt that, because theoretcially he wouldn't have been servely injured or nearly got bbq by Zeus.


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wtf, chuck a stardestroyer? Stardestroyers are huge:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Impe..._Star_Destroyer

1600 meters, almost an entire mile long

And Kratos had some difficulty tossing Colossus of Rhodes which would be miniscule in comparison to a star destroyer, the colossus of rhodes is what? 30 meters tall lol......

you think kratos has the strength to toss something over 50 times bigger? And thats the thing itself, if it had a crew complemant (it did when Apprentice pulled it down?) it would weigh even more. Then take into account its engines thrust.


BT, you also have to realize that Kratos had half of his powers drained, and not only that he was in his "small" form.


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Size matters little in this context, all of Kratos' strength is not from size, the fact he can still toss the Colossus at human size is proof of that, the fact remains his power was only drained by an amount we do not know. We cannot assume his strength was drained, all we can actually see is Zeus took away his size.

Furthermore even if we assume half of his strength was taken away, double the height of the colossus of rhodes and you still only get 60 meters....that star destroyer is not only 1600 meters, full of crew and is a fat ship as well. It has more mass than the Colossus, it is made of high density materials that are made to protect against weapons of the Star wars era as well, meaning its going to be heavier than bronze even IF we stupidly assume the armour of a Star destroyer is as thin as the metal on the colossus.

Either way, i think TGE was completly wrong and did not understand what he was saying.


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Technially, some of[half some say]your powers were drained, because he took most of your godly powers; Roman Soldier: "By the Gods, he's killed them all! He still has some of the
powers of a god! Ruuuunn!"

Good point, but when he is big there is no telling how much he can lift. Because Kratos when he was big easily knocked down a building, but in his small form, he[possibly]couldn't have done that. But remember in God of War II, when you tried to move Typhon's[The Titan]hand? And Gaia said: "You do not have enough power to lift the fingers of the great Titan. "


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Well there is telling, because he is still miniscule to the star destroyer, he has zero feats of lifting much in his large form.

He would have easily smashed that building to the ground, unless your saying the colossus of rhodes which is made of a stronger material AND is far larger than that building being thrown is less impressive?

When he was trying to lift Typhons fingers, he had zero God powers, they were drained into the blade of Olmypus by then.


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Well there is telling, because he is still miniscule to the star destroyer, he has zero feats of lifting much in his large form.

He would have easily smashed that building to the ground, unless your saying the colossus of rhodes which is made of a stronger material AND is far larger than that building being thrown is less impressive?


He could lift tons i'm shure. He probably could lift up a Titan[probably now].

As a God, you think Kratos in his small form could smash a building to a ground?


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lmao.......no Gumachi, no....Kratos could never lift up a Titan

He could easily, he tossed the Colossus of Rhodes, he can smash the roof off of a stone building.


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NVM, I thought Hades lifted up a Titan.


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Hades restrained one with leverage.

Still impressive.


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