Batman would get his ass kicked, pure and simple. I don't know why Ozymandias is on the list. If the guy can catch and dodge bullets, nothing Batman throws is getting near him.
Scenario 1: If the Comedian is in his prime, he takes Batman fairly easily, I'm surprised to say. His opening fight has him punching holes through sheet rock and getting slammed through kitchen counters and glass tables. He does better against [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ozymandias alone than two other heroes on this list do together.
And that's at sixty-seven.
Scenario 2: Same deal.
You should probably switch the placing of Comedian and Nite Owl.
H2H-Batman loses against all of them except maybe Nite Owl and Rorschach(Bruce is too smart to give Rorschach any field advantages). There's no way your convincing me those people were only human.
With Prep-I think Batman could clear it actually. He showed a lot of his vaunted detective skills in the films and designed the massive sonar device in TDK all by himself, an engineering feat. He could keep up with Comedians weapons with the stuff in his tumbler and bat pod, and I think Ozymandias is beatable. Hell, with enough time Bats could neutralize Dr Manhattan.
I would put Silk Spectre, Owl, and Batman on similar levels. However, those two have better "fight" feats as far as strength goes. They all three handled street peeps like they were nothing, however, the strength is strongly in favor of SS and Owl. They were kicking people many feet, UP into the air and breaking bones like it was nothing. That does not happen with either of the Bale Batman movies....however, there is that part where Bale basically curls Ducard, one handed, off the side of the cliff. I was like, "holy f*ck" because that would take a lot of strength and it looked like he did it for real.
That said, I think Batman has the intelligence advantage.
Owl's googles and pretty much all technology are much better than batman's sonar "vision".
I can't really see Batman winning against Silk with a comfortable margin. It's possible he would even lose.
Depends...I need to see more arguments to decide if he can make it past the first person.
Everyone in the movie was freakishly tough, the Comedian f**king broke his concrete wall like it was nothing. The Silk Spectre and Nite Owl gave a street gang one of the worst beatings I've ever seen in a movie. Batman is very strong and a brilliant fighter, but he's no metahuman. It would come down to his tactical mind in a fight situation. He would have to use stealth and the location to his advantage, and I suppose with the best of luck he could make it to Comedian.
In a prep situation, I think he would beat all of them. Ozymandias is the smartest person in his world, Bruce is on the same level as his and is probably more resourcful and strongwilled. Batman would have discovered his plot long before Rorschach and prevent anyone from dying.
Bruce is never presented as a genius of any sort. He's intelligent and extremely well-versed in the facets of crimefighting, sure, but that's it. Ozymandias is Batman on steroids. Far smarter, stronger, faster, and probably richer, too. He notes that he could buy up an entire group of corporations three times over at one point in the movie, notes again that he spent two billion in the final act, and has merchandising products in his likeness alone worth a billion dollars.
And more resources? Again, watch the movie or read the novel [or at least a summary] before commenting.
H2H, he loses to all of them. Even Silk Spectre showed ridiculous fighting prowess and superhuman(what the Watchmen did, is NOT possible by human standards) attributes which Bruce cannot fvck with.
All weapons and gear they carry, Nite-Owl shoots him with a laza.
1) The bat-suit provides a high level of protection.
2) Compare who Batman fought h2h Vs. who the others fought h2h with. I'd wager the LOS ninjas are more skilled than those street-goons and butt****ing-inmates. Just a thought.
1. So does everyone else's suit but Rorschach's and Silk Spectre's.
2. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Well Ozymandias destroyed Rorschach and Nite-Owl almost casually, and Comedian at age 67, far out of his prime, did better alone against him than they did together. Rorschach took on several Swat Team members, defeating like a dozen I think, and although Batman is very skilled in his own right, he has not shown the nigh(at the lowest) superhuman attributes of the Watchmen, nor has he shown the brutal efficiency at defeating large numbers of foes.
Batman, despite his skill, can and has had trouble with people of far lesser skill, Joker, although being a good fighter in his own right, is nothing to the Watchmen, and him along with like 2 other henchmen managed to give Batman some trouble.
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Last edited by Impediment on Mar 8th, 2009 at 11:45 PM
I think you're a little too late. Luckily I watched the movie tonight and I would say that all of the Watchmen could take him, though the suit would be trouble and might give him a few majorities.
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