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Monkey D. Luffy Versus Samurai Jack
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King Kandy
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It can cut anything, but if he doesn't have the strength to cut through it, then it's meaningless. Adamantium can cut through anything, but Logan can't, since he's not strong enough to generate enough force to cut through anything.

Speaking of Admantium, Jack has cut through it. It's not a matter of arm strength, other things act like butter under his sword, requiring no strength to cut.


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Now that I think about it, Jack can't even use his sword against those who aren't evil. So he'll have to go hand to hand with Luffy.

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Now that I think about it, Jack can't even use his sword against those who aren't evil. So he'll have to go hand to hand with Luffy.

That's been very inconsistent. Aku couldn't hurt Jack with the sword, but Jack used it to kill that viking trapped in stone who was a legendary hero. I think it cut Scotsman as well.


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Jack FTW


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I'm sorry, should I have specified that this wasn't to the death? I figured the scenario made it fairly clear that it's a scuffle based on misunderstanding. I can't imagine Luffy actually slaughtering some guy for ruining his lunch. erm

In any case, yeah, this is pretty much TKO.


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Luffy was trapped between two buildings, and pushed them away from him.

He ripped the front end off of a ship.

Luffy routinely blocks, anticipates, and dodges attacks that are too fast to see, or he shouldn't be able to see.

When he uses his Gear 2nd, his attacks happen so fast, they produce sonic booms.

And before he got the gears, he was fighting Kuro, whose Shakushi is about the same speed as Soru. With Gear 2nd, he overcame that speed, moving faster than Lucci.

Gear 3rd makes his body parts so big and hard, Jack won't have the strength to cut through it, or dodge the hit.
1. Not as heavy as 700 tons.

2. See above.

3. K. Jack actually moves that fast consistently throughout the show, killing large groups of bounty-hunters before they can fire their weapons.

4. Not as fast as you may think sir.

5. He was barely able to react to Kuro, who was still much faster than Luffy. And Soru/Gear Second have not been proven to be as fast as Jack.

6. Right, because size is clearly a problem because he fights gargantuan enemies all the time, and density is clearly a problem, because he cut right through Adamantium.


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Don't forget, Jack survived earth re-entry unprotected.


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Said that already.


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Jack would win, he is faster going by feats and his sword could cut Luffy (it cannot be wielded by evil people but it can cut good people).


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Jack would win, he is faster going by feats and his sword could cut Luffy (it cannot be wielded by evil people but it can cut good people).


Is that the stipulation on his weapon? Good to know. Thanks, Mike.


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Jack would win, he is faster going by feats and his sword could cut Luffy (it cannot be wielded by evil people but it can cut good people).



This is more correct.

It's not that Jack couldn't be cut by tye sword, it that Aku couldn't cut Jack with the sword. Read that a few times, guys, and it will make more sense.



Also, he killed that Viking for a good reason. I don't see why it wouldn't allow him to do something good with his sword.


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Also when that "mad jack" was created it's sword (which was the same as his) could cut him, even though it was evil and he was good. Which is why i'm inclined to say that time it didn't work was just a one-off plot device.


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Also when that "mad jack" was created it's sword (which was the same as his) could cut him, even though it was evil and he was good. Which is why i'm inclined to say that time it didn't work was just a one-off plot device.


Actually, "Mad Jack" was born from Jack's rage, and the catalyst was Jack's sandal. More likely, the "Mad Jack's" sword was carbon copy. He wielded it because he was an extension of Jack.


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Actually, "Mad Jack" was born from Jack's rage, and the catalyst was Jack's sandal. More likely, the "Mad Jack's" sword was carbon copy. He wielded it because he was an extension of Jack.

And that changes something? I know who mad Jack is, I've seen the episode. He could hurt Jack with a copy of his sword, which provides more proof the sword can hurt good people.


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With an evil copy, Mad Jack was an evil copy of Jack, just as the sword was a corrupted version of Jacks blade.

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This is more correct.

It's not that Jack couldn't be cut by tye sword, it that Aku couldn't cut Jack with the sword. Read that a few times, guys, and it will make more sense.



Also, he killed that Viking for a good reason. I don't see why it wouldn't allow him to do something good with his sword.


Holy shit, guys. Sorry about all of those atrocious typos.


Lemme retype it:


"It's not that Jack couldn't be cut by the sword, it's that Aku couldn't cut Jack with the sword."



I am using a wirless keyboard and I'm sitting several feet back form the monitor so I can't see when I make a typo or when the keyboard starts skipping characters.


Edit: Notice above how it missed the "e" in "wireless". DOH!


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Also when that "mad jack" was created it's sword (which was the same as his) could cut him, even though it was evil and he was good. Which is why i'm inclined to say that time it didn't work was just a one-off plot device.


This is...not perfectly accurate.

The sword was by no means the same as Jack's sword.


In fact, that Jack was very much a metaphor. "Conquering inner demons." was the point of that episode. However, he was "real". Hard for me really put how it was. The "sword" used by Evil Jack was not an exact replica. As Jack became more enraged, so did evil jack. Best way I can describe it is comparing it to Ichigo's inner hallow, except it was real.


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Er, it was the same. "Mad Jack" was just Jack, except... mad. And was created by Aku. Physically the two were the same.


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Er, it was the same. "Mad Jack" was just Jack, except... mad. And was created by Aku. Physically the two were the same.



So, you're saying that Aku could create a sword as powerful as Jack's, huh? So why didn't he do so from the beginning?


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Indeed.

Hell, Jack's sword was created by three beings who defeated Aku.


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Mad Jack was as strong as Jack, because he was Jack.


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