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abhilegend
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Originally posted by zopzop
Call me crazy but this is exactly how I see a PISless/CISless fight between the two of them going down.

Too bad, its not a PISless/CISless match. Now compare Herc's performances against Thor/Hulk.

Gladiator vs Masterson Thor.

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Hercules vs Masterson Thor.

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See how Hercules overpowers Masterson in a contest of strength and then recovers before him after that amped lightning after taking more hammer shots than Gladiator?

Bannerless Hulk vs Hercules at half strength.

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Bannerless Hulk vs Gladiator.

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Heh, Hercules performed better than Gladiator at half strength.


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Capes are definite no when fighting Hercules.

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I don't think Glads would want to get close to Herc.Hercules is the dirtiest player in the game after all roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Too bad, its not a PISless/CISless match. Now compare Herc's performances against Thor/Hulk.

Gladiator vs Masterson Thor.

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Hercules vs Masterson Thor.

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See how Hercules overpowers Masterson in a contest of strength and then recovers before him after that amped lightning after taking more hammer shots than Gladiator?

Bannerless Hulk vs Hercules at half strength.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sUnleashed1.jpg
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Bannerless Hulk vs Gladiator.

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Heh, Hercules performed better than Gladiator at half strength.

Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.


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Originally posted by zopzop
Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.

Heh, excuses and more excuses. Masterson and Gladiator stalemated in strength. Herc overpowered Masterson.

Ares then declared that if Hercules dies with his attacks, its no problem for him.

Hahaha.


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Originally posted by zopzop
Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.


Exactly. Gladiator was destroying Masterson...don't know why he just stood there when he could have finished him off. Masterson even said that Glads was too much and lets not forget, Gladiator dazed him twice in that fight.

The Hulk fight, Herc almost died in.that fight. Blood was everywhere. Don't know why ABHI is celebrating that showing.


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Heh, excuses and more excuses. Masterson and Gladiator stalemated in strength. Herc overpowered Masterson.

Gladiator actually beat BOTH Wonderman AND MT but just stood around their and waiting for him to sucker attack him using Living Lightening.

That's not a bad showing for Gladiator at all.


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Ares then declared that if Hercules dies with his attacks, its no problem for him.

Hahaha.

But that wasn't clearly his intention. It was to goad him to kill Eric and thus destroy Hercules emotionally. That was Hera's plan too, to destroy him emotionally. They knew if they outright killed him, Zeus would pummel their a$$e$.

PS Two questions for you Abhi :
a) where was it stated that Hulk's durability was lowered during the fight with Gladiator?
b) where was it stated that Hercules was at half power during his fight with Hulk?


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Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.


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Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.

Hmm, interesting. I guess that answers the Hulk question.

Carver do you have the scan that says the Herc that was fighting Hulk was at half power (did they explain why Herc was at half power)?


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Gladiator actually beat BOTH Wonderman AND MT but just stood around their and waiting for him to sucker attack him using Living Lightening.

That's not a bad showing for Gladiator at all.



But that wasn't clearly his intention. It was to goad him to kill Eric and thus destroy Hercules emotionally. That was Hera's plan too, to destroy him emotionally. They knew if they outright killed him, Zeus would pummel their a$$e$.

PS Two questions for you Abhi :
a) where was it stated that Hulk's durability was lowered during the fight with Gladiator?
b) where was it stated that Hercules was at half power during his fight with Hulk? [/B]

Gladiator never beat Masterson though, that's just that. Masterson was equal to Gladiator, Herc overpowered him.

Also Ares' plan was to goad Herc to kill Thor first, but then he declared it would be good if Herc dies too.

Go in the Hulk respect thread by ODG.

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Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.

Heh, the comic where Herc fought Hulk happened just a few months before Hulk fought Gladiator. Hulk was amped in both scenarios.


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In a straight h2h fight Herc would win but in this case Gladz for the majority


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It's been a while, but I'm pretty certain Ares was specifically trying NOT to kill Hercules and was goading Hercules into killing Eric Masterson by endangering others. Even at the very end, he literally waits for Hercules to recover and tells him that Masterson has to die to stop innocent deaths.

And just like Gladiator, Hercules was knocked out by the Mjolnir shots. IIRC, once from a sucker shot from behind. The second time it took 3 to 4 hits to the face. Not sure how Hercules outperformed Gladiator in this regard either who took just as many blows and recovered as well. If Ares was going for the kill and hammered away at the Lion of Olympus, he could have beaten Hercules to death too.

I agree that Hercules would get the edge in hand to hand (With no flight/speed etc.) but Gladiator didn't fair any worse against Masterson.

Edit: Not sure how he overpowered Masterson in a contest of strength either. He tackled Masterson from the side who was waiting for Hercules to get lethal.


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Herc has went h2h with the likes of Wonderman, thing and thor and got knocked around and hurt. Gladiator has went h2h with them also and barring an enchanted hammer, glads has koed or beat the hell out of them. Gladiator destroys herc.


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Herc has beat the hell out of Wonder man an Thing too. He has legit overpowered Thor in Blood Oath which Gladiator has never done.


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Herc has went h2h with the likes of Wonderman, thing and thor and got knocked around and hurt. Gladiator has went h2h with them also and barring an enchanted hammer, glads has koed or beat the hell out of them. Gladiator destroys herc.
Herc has beaten WM, Thing, and was going to beat Thor in hth.


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This is a PISLESS fight though.
That means Herc would be Glads plaything for amusement. He would toy with him until he gets tired, then he will end him quickly.


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How did Hercules overpower Thor during Blood Oath? It was made so explicitly clear that what he did was because of a skill edge that you would legit need dyslexia or something to come to the conclusion that Hercules was physically stronger.


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No PIS doesn't mean Gladz speedblitz and eye beams continuously. Herc will rock Kall here and there without a doubt hes fought beings with similar powersets and stats and wasnt a plaything. If Gladz wins its barely a W


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Herc has beat the hell out of Wonder man an Thing too. He has legit overpowered Thor in Blood Oath which Gladiator has never done.


When did Gladiator fight Thor?


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How did Hercules overpower Thor during Blood Oath? It was made so explicitly clear that what he did was because of a skill edge that you would legit need dyslexia or something to come to the conclusion that Hercules was physically stronger.
Herc has never overpowered thor or eric, scan twisting should be against the rules by now.


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Gladiator has the advantage in speed and overall diversity of powers. Hercules is slightly stronger, more experienced, a better fighter and has more stamina. If the battle is man-to-man close combat Herc wins based on his advantages. Gladiator could win the battle using long range attacks, but why would Gladiator stay out of Herc's reach unless he lacked confidence in which case he'd be far from his usual nigh-invincible self and Herc would take him out by hurling any number and variety of objects at him until he went down.



This, exactly this.

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