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The Blade of Olympus vs. The Master Sword (actually it's Kratos vs. Link)
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Demonic Phoenix
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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So far its a tie then.

The BoO is bigger in size by default. Kratos wins.

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So you're saying that brutally killing other people purely for your own benefit Isn't evil!? Huh.

Link 'kills' his enemies for his benefit. Isn't that evil by that standard?

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Originally posted by iChaos
No, that wasn't gameplay.

In which cutscene did he kill an innocent in CoO?

~ Kratos isn't completely 'evil'. He's morally neutral imo, somewhat like a anti-hero/byronic hero mix, meh. Though he's probably more towards the 'evil' side of the spectrum post-GoW -> GoWIII.


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Kratos is incredibly evil.

Master sword deflect magic/protects Link from evil/is super-effective against evil/shoots lasers/is generally amazing.

Link wins.


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Kratos is incredibly evil.

Master sword deflect magic/protects Link from evil/is super-effective against evil/shoots lasers/is generally amazing.

Link wins.


If Kratos is factually evil, then Link is factually gay.

Blade of Olympus absorbs magic/ended the titan war/is super effective against anyone/ shoots bigger lasers/ is generally more amazing which makes Master Sword look like a handout for everybody.

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Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
In which cutscene did he kill an innocent in CoO?

~ Kratos isn't completely 'evil'. He's morally neutral imo, somewhat like a anti-hero/byronic hero mix, meh. Though he's probably more towards the 'evil' side of the spectrum post-GoW -> GoWIII.


Well, actually, they were innocents spirits, but you get my point.

I don't think there is a cutscene, but he had to kill them canonically in order to get his powers back. According to the game script, it must be a cutscene, I guess.

And for the record, the BoO only "asorbs" magic optionally.

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for the record, the BoO only "asorbs" magic optionally.


Didn't Kratos let the BoO absorb the magic out of him to be released so Kratos can defeat the Colossus?

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Only optionally?


No, in madatory plot points. At least two or three.

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I'll believe the BoO is more amazing when I see it used to harm Ganondorf.

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And I'll believe the MS is more powerful when it ends a world-sized war between two mountainous races/reduces a city sized army to a bloody field of armor/kills an ACTUAL God.

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Said it before, will say it again. Ganon > Zeus.


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And it's since been argued. Zeus alone >>> Legend of Zelda.

Hell Pandora's Box for that matter.

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And I'll believe the MS is more powerful when it ends a world-sized war between two mountainous races/reduces a city sized army to a bloody field of armor/kills an ACTUAL God.


Well, ALttP did establish the MS as a pretty bitchin weapon. If I recall correctly the Knights used it to protect the Seven Wise Men from Ganondorf as they sealed the door to the Sacred Realm. There was a huge war and everything.

And Ganon can do anything the BoO can just as easily. The MS beats his ass.


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The one thing he did that was ever virtually similar to the BoO's feats wasn't even a fraction as impressive in scale.

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Well, actually, they were innocents spirits, but you get my point.

I don't think there is a cutscene, but he had to kill them canonically in order to get his powers back. According to the game script, it must be a cutscene, I guess.

And for the record, the BoO only "asorbs" magic optionally.


Key words here being 'had to'. Or else everything that existed would have been damned erm. He could have let Persephone & Atlas destroy the Gods (and Ares) but he chose to give up daughter, and save her and the world. He would not be able do that without any power now would he.

What do you mean by optionally?


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-You're actually making my point smile Kratos only did it for his own will. Bascially, he only did it to save himself. Fact is, he killed innocents, regardless of what he "had" to do.

-I mean, didn't he give up his powers optionally? In other words, you can't just take it - magic- at will.


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-Did you not listen/watch/do anything in CoO? If there was one person Kratos did it for, it sure as hell wasn't himself. The REAL fact is that he's not incapable of selfless acts. Your "point" is practically moot (please log in to view the image).

-Only from himself. From The Colossus of Rhodes and apparently Zeus, he clearly took it on his own.

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I'd like to point out even the most evil characters in fiction are often capable of selfless acts. Monolithic evil's an unrealistic concept, and makes characters one dimensional. It's easier to accept characters as human if they act human. Kratos is indeed evil.


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Saying that the Master Sword protects Link from all evil sounds like a No limit falllacy.

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Following your logic and Mewtoo himself is evil because he commit unknown deaths with his hurricane.


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-You're actually making my point smile Kratos only did it for his own will. Bascially, he only did it to save himself. Fact is, he killed innocents, regardless of what he "had" to do.

-I mean, didn't he give up his powers optionally? In other words, you can't just take it - magic- at will.


He didn't do it to save himself no expression.
Also, look at it this way, those spirits would have been destroyed had Kratos not stopped Atlas & Persephone. I also find it hard to believe that Kratos could kill those spirits, they were already dead.

He took it from the Colossus without its consent.


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Following your logic and Mewtoo himself is evil because he commit unknown deaths with his hurricane.


Even in the pokedex, MewTwo is listed as the Pokemon with the most savage heart of all, and D/P/P has Giritina.. Sooo. Yeah. MewTwo was definitely evil in the first movie, less so in the second when he sacrifices himself for the other pokemon.


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He didn't do it to save himself no expression.
Also, look at it this way, those spirits would have been destroyed had Kratos not stopped Atlas & Persephone. I also find it hard to believe that Kratos could kill those spirits, they were already dead.


Yes he did. He did not care about the gods or anything, he only did it to save himself. When Kratos found out that he would die, along with everyone else, he did it for himself. Like I said, they were "innocents" spirirts. And not to mention that Kratos killed (or rather throwed) the boat captain down the throat of the Hydra, and he pushed him down back into Hades when he was on the edge of that thing.

There was no reason to kill Helios, but hey, he did it.

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