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Nephthys
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how did vitiate die? If I might ask out of ignorance?




Kind of lame, but eh. Sidious' death was lamer.


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Has to be zonoma sekot right?
Yes, followed by Vader with the Kaiburr crystal and Anakin when channeling the energies of Mortis, in both cases his fullest potential was effectively unlocked.

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Luke managed to destroy some hosts of Abeloth by using the surroundings to his advantage, breaking bones with debris/rubble and burning flesh with hot materials. Abeloth, for all her power, isn't very good at defending her hosts from external threats. She lacks in formal training so this might be the reason.

In contrast, Vitiate was very good at defending himself. He prevented T3-M4 from incinerating him with his grasp of defensive aspects of the Force even though he was caught off-guard by such an attempt on him. Heck, some Sith Lords serving him could tank even direct missile hits. I believe that Vitiate was virtually immune to most attacks.


Luke's Oneness had nothing to do with that, for a brief moment his power over-ruled Abeloth's.


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Which death? I'll give you his death in Empire's End was lamer, but then he wanted to die. The one in RotJ? Hell no. Far better.

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That kind of defeats the whole "he can overpower anyone's mind at will" kinda argument though, right?

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He did dominate the HoT, but they broke his control.

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HoT killed him. Although, I'm not sure why he can't just resurrect himself considering he knows the proper ability...


Apparently Vitiates flipping the **** out since his death. His Children can hear him raging and screaming in their minds, schizophrenically telling them to boil Manaan and burn Kashyyyk at the same time.

He'll be back, I think he's just really ****ed up.


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That kind of defeats the whole "he can overpower anyone's mind at will" kinda argument though, right?


That argument has been dead since 2011. Funny enough, Karpyshyn came out and actually confirmed that Vitiate can't do that shit at whim in an email.. hence why he never actually does.

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Apparently Vitiates flipping the **** out since his death. His Children can hear him raging and screaming in their minds, schizophrenically telling them to boil Manaan and burn Kashyyyk at the same time.

He'll be back, I think he's just really ****ed up.


what?

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He has a bunch of dudes he's imprinted with his power that are connected to his consciousness called the Emperor's Children. So they can hear his thoughts if he wants them too.


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If Vitiate golfs, do you think he has an Emperor's Caddy?

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When Palpatine plays cards, is he dealt an Emperor's Hand?


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He has a bunch of dudes he's imprinted with his power that are connected to his consciousness called the Emperor's Children. So they can hear his thoughts if he wants them too.


Ah, I see.

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When Palpatine plays cards, is he dealt an Emperor's Hand?


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Apparently Vitiates flipping the **** out since his death. His Children can hear him raging and screaming in their minds, schizophrenically telling them to boil Manaan and burn Kashyyyk at the same time.

He'll be back, I think he's just really ****ed up.


When he does come back, what's he gonna do? He can possess a weak host, sure.


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how did vitiate die? If I might ask out of ignorance?

Vitiate's story is still in progress so it is not clear how he was eventually put out of commission.

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HoT killed him. Although, I'm not sure why he can't just resurrect himself considering he knows the proper ability...

HoT didn't kill him, if you are referring to the events that took place inside the Dark Temple.

Vitiate suffered a major setback in this encounter because he was interrupted from his (ultimate) ritual which seemingly backfired on him heavily.

It is not clear how Vitiate was eventually vanquished.

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That kind of defeats the whole "he can overpower anyone's mind at will" kinda argument though, right?

Vitiate had broken HoT earlier and kept him as his pwn for a long time. However, HoT's famed Jedi Master Orgus Din (as a spirit) helped him break free from Vitiate's telepathic influence. After this event, Vitiate focused more on making his (ultimate) ritual a reality rather then bring HoT back under his influence.

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When he does come back, what's he gonna do? He can possess a weak host, sure.

He is expected to comeback with his original body (Sith pureblood one).

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He is expected to comeback with his original body (Sith pureblood one).


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