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this jesus buisness

thing is god might be an alien and Jesus might have been extra terrestrial too because if the things that have been said about what Jesus could do are true then maybe he was an alien and maybe angels are aliens too, think about it.

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thing is god might be an alien and Jesus might have been extra terrestrial too because if the things that have been said about what Jesus could do are true then maybe he was an alien and maybe angels are aliens too, think about it.


Or maybe... if all of the things that have been said about what Jesus could do are true... then maybe... just maybe... God is the one true God and Jesus is His only begotten son.

Think about it.


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Or maybe... if all of the things that have been said about what Jesus could do are true... then maybe... just maybe... God is the one true God and Jesus is His only begotten son.

Think about it.


Jesus could also equally be an alien though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with advanced technology, which would appear to be like magic/miracles to the less technologically developed.

Clarke's 3rd law. Think about it.


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Jesus could also equally be an alien though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with advanced technology, which would appear to be like magic/miracles to the less technologically developed.

Clarke's 3rd law. Think about it.


Jesus could also equally be the Son of God though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with the fact that God created the universe and turning water into wine is small potatoes in comparison.

Why is it so much easier for everyone to believe in little green men than to believe that there is a God who created the universe? I just don't get it...


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Jesus could also equally be the Son of God though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with the fact that God created the universe and turning water into wine is small potatoes in comparison.

Why is it so much easier for everyone to believe in little green men than to believe that there is a God who created the universe? I just don't get it...


lol

That's a crude representation of why I fall on the side of "God-believer" on the agnostic spectrum, at the end of the day.


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Jesus could also equally be the Son of God though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with the fact that God created the universe and turning water into wine is small potatoes in comparison.

Why is it so much easier for everyone to believe in little green men than to believe that there is a God who created the universe? I just don't get it...


Jesus' acts could also equally be a myth. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising from the dead could all be explained by myths growing into legends and such over centuries.

Why is it so much easier for so many to believe in fantastical stories than believe in logic? I just don't get that.


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Jesus' acts could also equally be a myth.


Actually, no. The "stories" popped up too early for both sides of this discussion to be considered "equal" in consideration. Several miraculous events did happen. As Dawkins put it, it could just be the workings of an advanced alien species. So it still comes down to faith. Faith that it was the workings of the Son of God as opposed to an advanced alien species trying to instill an altruistic belief system in a savage and violent sentient species.

Hey, it worked! Somewhat. Apparently, Christians give more to charity than any other demographic in the US. Imagine that. Now all we need to do is get rid of the self-righteousness and judgmentalism and we have one of the best possible combinations for a "people". derpy dooo!

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Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising from the dead could all be explained by myths growing into legends and such over centuries.


You have that a bit wrong: "...could all be explained by legends growing into slightly exaggerated legends over the course of just a few decades before we get corroborating evidences of confirming manuscripts.

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Why is it so much easier for so many to believe in fantastical stories than believe in logic? I just don't get that.


This question is worded incorrectly. It cannot be answered because the way it is worded is not very honest.

If you wanted an accurate question, it should be worded:

"Why is it slightly easier for some to believe in miraculous events? I just don't get that."

And the answer is quite easy: it is a combination of neuroscience and spirituality. No, those two are not mutually inclusive. I am talking metaphysical spirituality.

And the reason it is so easy is miracles continue to happen even today. Be it a surgeon who performs her job beyond her capabilities (and feeling a sense of spiritual transcendence after the operation) or a fireman who receives heavenly guidance to navigate a collapsing building.


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Or myths.

I have it right.

Worded fine, deal.


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Charity box dpnations work as conscience clearers for some, rather than everyday kindness and simple obedience to conscience.
Catholics for instance would donate a lot of money too, but a lot of their priests still bugger children and scare and guilt trip an entire world with blackmail threats of hells and until recently limbos. Fact. And many christians arent much better in the 'control/judge other people whilst being lazy in their own progress of true goodness' stakes but hey as long as that donation box is contributed to... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spiritual advancement is more of an deep, internal thing than mere ownership of a repeatedly rewritten book and most never "get it".
And if you need a manual to tell you how to be good, or that if you don't follow certain rules you are punished horribly, how altruistic/good are your really/naturally? Doesn't that seem to be like a dangerous bastard who wants to kill everyone all the time, who doesnt cause they are on parole at the moment? How much of a natural and true non-killer does that make them?
The bible contradicts itself way too much when taken literally, to be regarded as something to be taken literally.
IE Thou shalt not kill (Except if they are a member of such and such a race, unless a voice tells you to kill your son, unless that are a 'witch' etc etc)

The stories are also adaptations of other earlier religions/faiths and metaphors for astrology and other subjects, and also could be considered to be more allegorically than anything else.
IE: Water into wine refering to the spiritual alchemical process of development. Like the coal/diamond metaphor.

Just the way it seems to me..


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Jesus could also equally be an alien though. Turning water into wine, healing the sick and raising the dead could all be explained with advanced technology, which would appear to be like magic/miracles to the less technologically developed.

Clarke's 3rd law. Think about it.


Classic alien.

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Welcome, heathen.


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