Also there was an issue somewhere about the flash and flight I believe in the nova vs flash event. Wally proved flashes can fly when he was in that big race where Krakkl was stealing his speed for the whole race. IDR where it's from though. Just throwing that out there.
I've read the respect thread; and I think that a lot of people are dismissing the low-feats of speedsters to put them in a power-bracket they don't occupy in the comics. Zoom may be trans, but most of the speedsters are high herald. Galan, who is generally a reasonable and knowledgeable guy, suggested recently that a team consisting of Darkseid, Thanos, Henshaw, Sinestro, and I forget who else couldn't do anything to Wally West, which would put ol' Wally a bit above Odin, I'd say. Pure...gibbering...insanity.
That doesn't really put him above Odin imo. I read that thread and what he was saying is that they probably wouldn't be able catch him for quite some time. That same insane reaction time combined with the ability to stop motion entirely on massive levels is what justifies this imo. It's not that he's more powerful, just that his powers can either prevent others from using theirs or just avoid them entirely.
However, I'm not sure what Nate's new powers are defined as.... I thought they were just high tk and tp, but I was wrong apparently. I do think that will help him in his fight with Wally though. I don't think that Wally is unbeatable, but I do think that he is very difficult to beat.
yes, it's actually his default state apparently SNG isnt really solid. he is pure psionic energy, but he made himself a body by creating a kind of pseudo-matter to interact with the physical world in a more conventional fashion (actually it's for the sake of us readers). however, this pseudo-matter is note really solid and apparently lacks mass. SNG is intangible at rest and flash aint punching or rearranging (which he wouldnt do with CIS on anyway) him. furthermore, rearranging him will acomplish nothing as he doesnt need the body he willed into existence at all. he has desintegrated his body and moved on (as pure psionic energy) to mindrape and take possession of norman osbourne. SNG simply transcends the physical world.
I believe he did that by screwing with the functions in their brains. a lot of energy manipulators/blasters can interfere with psionic attacks, but that doesnt mean they are manipualting psionic energy, I think it's more like throwing lighting at a fireball. besides, there is the matter of power scale and only magneto comes close tot he level of ebergy manipualtiona x-mand and godcable have displayed IIRC cable manipualted the enrgy of 200 exploding nuclear warheads and released it outside the earth.
it was a ruse, he was playing ares. it's not zoom's power, it's somethign else entirely, but coupled with intangibility, teleportation, area of efrect attacks and precognition, it can counter the blitz capacity
You would have to be as fast or faster then Wally to teleport away from him before he hits you.
AOE attacks? is that going to happen before or after Wally has already killed Nate?
Precog is only good if you have the reactions to keep up with what you know. For example you know the flash is going to hit you at 10 oclock tommorow but you can't do anything about it because your not fast enough to avoid him anyway.
Now imagine Nate knows hes going to hit him in the next microsecond he would still have to have reactions comparable to the Flash to avoid something like that.
really? how would flash touch him exactly?. even if his body was destroyed, it would mean squat to him, he'd just TK crush or mindrape flash afterwards.
Nate phased through Moonstone, Daken, and Bulleye’s attack all at once. Physical attacks won’t do, Wally needs to pull out some metaphysical ones that can effect an astral body….that’s if he has any.
Wally needs to drop a beat on him. The right kind of beat. Otherwise if Nate aint listening, he will crush his head in. Wally has nowhere to run, Nate can unleash telepathic attack on a global scale.
Not just that but he sees time differently, so Flash won't be able to speedblitz him anyway. Thats how Grandmaster could see Runner and Makkari vibrating at high speeds.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
ive seen those scans... why mention flashs can fly as if it can be used as a significant advantage in a fight especially against those who can fly at incredible speeds... this is directed to the previous posters btw like Trickster... sigh
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