And how did you come to that conclusion?
Goku even in SSJ3 form only has Large Planetary destruction, Supposed Planetary Durabilty, Possible World shaking Dynamic force in Strength and Massively Hypersonic movement.
Superman especially Pre Crisis goes beyond all if not most of those feats especially in Speed, Durability and Strength.
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You seem to be ignoring both Goku's and Superman's feats but still falsely claim Goku wins.
You're also one of the posters who got hammered down by Endless Mike on the Vegito vs Z thread.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm basing things off of average showings and average showings...Black Hair Goku kills Superman. If you lean on high showings, then this "somewhat" becomes a fight but average portrayal, Superman wouldnt last 3 panels against Goku. Superman is fast, especially due to flight but his combat speed doesn't compare to someone like Goku. Flying through space at light is all nice and dandy but that doesn't have a thing to do with someone as fast as Goku combat wise.
Superman have some impressive "lifting" fts as well and comparing them to Gokus, someone who doesn't have a single reason to even lift a pebble, Superman does have him beat. When we get to punching power...Goku during his early days fts surpass Superman by a long shot. Goku was punching at being fts away from him and the aftershock from his punches sent beings flying. That's just the minimum. Durability? Superman space fts of tanking blast is all nice and dandy as well but when facing opponents that main powers is blasting...its not as high as a lot of people would like to make it. People ranging from Doctor Poloris has Koed him with a blast and there are other instances of him being damaged by output of power. Goku has the power to drop him...hell, during his teen he was tossing around moon busting power. Superman has NEVER withstood a beating like Goku has. Superman has never tanked 3 planetary attacks in one fight...multiple nukes, numerous of high class 100 punches, having an island thrown on him, etc, etc...all in one fight without being koed. That has NEVER happened and again, this happened to beings far weaker and durable than Goku at Super Saiyan 1.
Does this not make Superman powerful because he would (along with any other Herald) get his neck snapped by Goku...no. He is just out of his league here.
By the way I agree with Mike about Z beating Goku. You have the wrong thread buddy.
Carver, you're a liar. You've made it obvious on this board that you know jack shit about Superman, and what feats you do know of, you play down because of your incessant hatred for the character. So stop trolling.
Not once did I downplay Supes. I gave reasons why Goku would stomp him. You could put Hulk or Thor in the same position and I would say the same thing. Goku would kill Glads 10/10. This isnt just Superman, this is any herald.
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