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Kuja9001
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Same as the Sora/Riku feat unless those lasers are extremely fast.


I think 3D retcons that event.

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Hm? It looks pretty much the same, just in mid air.. technically making it twice as good as in the game.



...great, now I want to watch the trailer again >__>


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The devs made 6 statements like that. One was that Dante beats V.Joe, then the reverse, Bay beats Dante [apparently said jokingly], Dante = Bay and then Joe = Dante = Bay.. There was also the statement that Dante > the rest of Capcom and Dormammu, so..

Bay's at equal strength, slower and has less hax than Dante. Equal speed and weaker than Kratos.


Then they are all true, except for the last one of course because he was obviously referring to Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

Kratos is faster if she's slightly faster than a car.


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Wait, what?

A statement about Dante being greater than Dormammu? From whom? Where?

Maybe in the game canon, but Capcom has no say on that outside of the game, since its not their character.

Dormammu would shit on everyone in this thread by the way. Asura would be less than an afterthought.


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More whining I see.

How fast would this make them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF8LmLFkec0#t=7m25s


No whining. Just truth. It's barely a game.

And, probably well into hypersonic, considering the distance there appears to be.


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No whining. Just truth. It's barely a game.


Just like Heavy Rain right?

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Just like Heavy Rain right?


Funny enough, even Heavy Rain is more of a game than Asura's Wrath.


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All? Dante < Joe > Dante < Bay = Dante =Joe.... /splodes/ lol nah apparently Capcom said they're bringing their strongest character to MvC when talking about Dante.

MvC/SMT Dante >
stick out tongue


Kratos' speed [not reactions] is Peak+ O.o


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A statement about Dante being greater than Dormammu? From whom? Where?

Iunno, just something I read. Not from Capcom guys, someone else.


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All? Dante < Joe > Dante < Bay = Dante =Joe.... /splodes/ lol nah apparently Capcom said they're bringing their strongest character to MvC when talking about Dante.

MvC/SMT Dante >
stick out tongue


Kratos' speed [not reactions] is Peak+ O.o



Iunno, just something I read. Not from Capcom guys, someone else.


Moar liek Joe = Dante = Bayonetta, since they can all beat each other apparently. stick out tongue

Yeah, those Crapcom guys were lying.
Demitri >> SMT Dante

In terms of traveling speed, his super leg muscles say otherwise, never mind The Sandals of Hermes.


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Moar liek Joe = Dante = Bayonetta, since they can all beat each other apparently. stick out tongue

Yeah, those Crapcom guys were lying.
Demitri >> SMT Dante

In terms of traveling speed, his super leg muscles say otherwise, never mind The Sandals of Hermes.


I'm riding the feat train bro

Pish, SMT Dante is Multiversal


Eh, never really seen him do any fast movements so leg muscles be dammed. And iirc Hermes doesn't have a solid speed feat either, plus its unknown how much of his speed was his or his booties.


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I though this was about the Daedric Price Azura. Well, never mind.

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Eh, never really seen him do any fast movements so leg muscles be dammed. And iirc Hermes doesn't have a solid speed feat either, plus its unknown how much of his speed was his or his booties.


Kratos has performed great leaps at speeds faster than any human could, if you count that.

Also, Bayonetta would probably beat Dante. Let's be honest here.

She headbutt's skyscrapers and sends them flying.

... God I hate that *****.


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Guess he has faster jumping speed, though thinking of the watercrabhorse scene he wasnt far above human speeds.

Have the figures for that somewhere and its not /that/ far from his base strength. But remember thats comes after an eight second charge up. Her usable strength that she can do on the fly are on par with Dante's. She still aint fast enough though..

Aha, physics.


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I'm riding the feat train bro

Pish, SMT Dante is Multiversal


Eh, never really seen him do any fast movements so leg muscles be dammed. And iirc Hermes doesn't have a solid speed feat either, plus its unknown how much of his speed was his or his booties.


Good thing lol-Word of God > Feats

Yes, he is multiversal. Demitri pimp-slapped him so hard Dante was sent into another Universe.


Apart from his jumping feats which cement his movement speed as being far above Peak-Human, he can also outrun Cronos sweeping his hand across his arm without the need for his boots, and we both know that Cronos can move his arms rather fast.
His booties are what make him the fastest god. He's run straight up a section of a chain that is a mile or so long, and he has filled 6 goblets with wine at the same time.


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the chain was much longer than just a mile from where hermes started running.

the labyrinth is in the center of olympus, and olympus has to be at least a dozen miles tall judging by how small that titan looked while falling after poseidon flew down at his chest.

anyway, by powerscaling, he's supposed to be the fastest in the verse, and Poseidon and Zeus definitely have broken mach speeds before, as have Poseidon's hippocampi.


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Yeah, but we don't know if he ran all the way up to the Chamber of the Flame, or he paused somewhere in between. All we could see was at best, a mile of the chain.


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Good thing lol-Word of God > Feats

Yes, he is multiversal. Demitri pimp-slapped him so hard Dante was sent into another Universe.


Apart from his jumping feats which cement his movement speed as being far above Peak-Human, he can also outrun Cronos sweeping his hand across his arm without the need for his boots, and we both know that Cronos can move his arms rather fast.
His booties are what make him the fastest god. He's run straight up a section of a chain that is a mile or so long, and he has filled 6 goblets with wine at the same time.


Haku = Lightspeed then

I see what you did there.. Multiversal smack talk foo'! Gonna make Demitri feel bad.... on a multiversal level


Fastest I remember is this, barely above Peak. Almost hypersonic, though his hand speed at that moment in the scene was only 15m/s, and it was gaining on Kratos' 10m/s [dead on peak o.o].
"Nor do we know if the boots gave Hermes all of his speed, or only amped his speed." ~DP :V Dunno why but it was in a file. More to the fact, speed is his only ability. From his status he must have some ability of his own that didnt come from the boots.
None of that gives a speed though. It takes him over a second to run up past 4, 6m chain links, only 24m. The same speed shown through the game like running down the mountain or across the wire. Nootttt sure what filling 6 cups actually means O.o Unless he can make the wine shoot out the bottle way faster than normal, cos there's no other way.





IIRC besides the giant horses [Mach5ish], neither of those two had supersonic movement.


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Mach 5 is about a mile a second.

The hippocampi shot up from the water covering more like 6 miles a second.

And that wasn't Kratos' best leap. Earlier he jumped from the hippocampi to mount olympus, and then later he jumps from Cronos' left shoulder to his right palm.


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Ah, so that's its name.

If its this then its about 22m (about 9 Kratos heights) in 1.5s, 15m/s is not far from the 10m/s Peak speed. The Cronos one was a 25m/s speed, though some of it may be attributed to the dive. So his jump speed around twice human speed.



Around 6km I'd say. And it took 4 whole seconds for it to get to them to get that high, timed it a few times.


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Haku = Lightspeed then

I see what you did there.. Multiversal smack talk foo'! Gonna make Demitri feel bad.... on a multiversal level

Fastest I remember is this, barely above Peak. Almost hypersonic, though his hand speed at that moment in the scene was only 15m/s, and it was gaining on Kratos' 10m/s [dead on peak o.o].
"Nor do we know if the boots gave Hermes all of his speed, or only amped his speed." ~DP :V Dunno why but it was in a file. More to the fact, speed is his only ability. From his status he must have some ability of his own that didnt come from the boots.
None of that gives a speed though. It takes him over a second to run up past 4, 6m chain links, only 24m. The same speed shown through the game like running down the mountain or across the wire. Nootttt sure what filling 6 cups actually means O.o Unless he can make the wine shoot out the bottle way faster than normal, cos there's no other way.





IIRC besides the giant horses [Mach5ish], neither of those two had supersonic movement.


He was holding back.

Demitri gets hawt ladies from all over the multiverse. Dante can only get a 10 year old girl to like him.

There's this where he crosses about 20-30 meters while massive platforms fall in slow-mo.

Eh, a) gameplay speed.
b) I highly highly doubt Cronos would move his hands at a very small fraction of his true speed when he is trying to capture Kratos.

What file?
Indeed, Speed is supposed to be his thing, but given how the Boots amp Kratos' speed to the point where he can now run up walls (and create trails of fire as Kratos runs, but it might just be a power of the boots that Hermes did not use on-screen...ask CC about this), the Boots must have also amped a considerably faster being by a similar margin.
On a tangent, he also had a Caduceus in the first novel, but it isn't present in the game.

More like 10, ~15m sections in just over a second, and he was running upwards while laughing so while it was obviously nowhere near as fast as Dante's Tower Dive, it was far more casual.
Yeah, it was a bit of a doozy, but the glasses were still filled at the same time and he appeared to be in three places at once.

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Ah, so that's its name.

If its this then its about 22m (about 9 Kratos heights) in 1.5s, 15m/s is not far from the 10m/s Peak speed. The Cronos one was a 25m/s speed, though some of it may be attributed to the dive. So his jump speed around twice human speed.



Around 6km I'd say. And it took 4 whole seconds for it to get to them to get that high, timed it a few times.


3-4 seconds is how long it took to grab Gaia. We don't know if it rammed straight into her, or reached her, then grabbed her like it did with the Titan next to her. Given how fast it shot out of the water, I think it reached her in about a second or so.


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