Tis true. Which reminds me of the movie "Network".
I don't believe they should have more of a say but I would concider their opinion quite important. Any more brain busters?
Do you not respect the opinion of the people defending you? Of course you would wouldn't you? Don't be stupid. Keep trying to nit pick at everything I say though.
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and to be fair, I couldn't find anything to say that the military as a whole supports Paul over other candidates outside of campaign contributions. Interesting, but hardly indicative of who the military, as a whole, wants to win the election.
do I respect their opinion about who should run the country? no, not really. Not more so than other special interest groups. shit man, how many of these types of "important" groups do you think support Obama? You think teachers and doctors are going to line up behind Paul? academics? scientists? like, this is essentially political dick measuring.
the fact that soldiers might support him says absolutely nothing about his policy, and in fact, is a red herring designed to detract from any meaningful discussion of the matter.
You're asking why I concider the opinion of a soldier about our current foreign policy to be important? The ones who risk their lives for us? You're seriously asking me why?
Why does it matter to you what my opinions are? I take their opinion highly with much respect. Simple as that. I don't see the what you're trying to get out of it by asking.
Do you see other troops marching outside for other candidates? Do you see them marching for obama? romney? santorum? gingrich? I sure as hell don't. The news would be all over that shit as long as its not for Paul. To be fair though, I could give a rats ass if you couldn't find anything OUTSIDE the contributions. Such a strawman argument lol.
Btw, how did you go about trying to find military, as a whole, support Ron Paul outside contributions? What did you do? Google it? Lol
So because you cant find anywhere that shows the whole entire military supporting ron paul, you're just going to shrug it off? Simple question.
Your debate tactics are humorous.
You don't have to respect their opinion just as much as I can give a rats ass about yours.
This has to do with foreign policy. It has to do with current america and the wars we are in. These are people that put their LIVES on the line. Is a teacher putting their life on the line as much as a soldier? Is a doctor at a local hospital putting their life on the line as much as a soldier?
Lmfao. They arent telling anyone to support Ron Paul. They are simply showing THEIR support for ron paul. This was a rally on the white house to show Obama and everything watching who the choice of troops is. These troops. Keep up with the strawman though.
Have you watched all of the videos I presented? Woooosh
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But the question being asked originally wasn't really a bright question at all. At least thats my opinion on it. But if you're gaining satisfaction then... **** it.
"Your voices: for your voices I have fought;
Watch'd for your voices; for Your voices bear
Of wounds two dozen odd; battles thrice six
I have seen and heard of; for your voices have
Done many things, some less, some more your voices:
Indeed I would be consul."
"I've bled and killed for your voices
therefore your voices should support me as consul"
The entire play is about an extremely potent warrior who would be a dictator, justified by his contribution to the Roman military effort. In part, there are a couple of awesome revenge subplots and issues of class purity, but the main comparison I'm seeing here is that, for some reason, you are making the fallacious argument that people who risk their lives for the nation are somehow more deserving of having a voice.
Like, among republicans, Paul polls around 10-20% nationally. To suggest that military support for Paul is a reason to vote for him is also to suggest that this group of people should be given more say than the 80-90% of the population, who might not be soldiers, who don't support him. It is a fallacy, and a dangerous one imho... It seems surprising to me that you would make an appeal to the violent arm of the government as a justification for why to vote for someone who you point to as a peace maker.
surely you wouldn't claim that the majority of police officers should determine national policy on crime (re: they overwhelmingly support harsher punishment for drug laws)
You don't realize that you're jumping the gun quite a bit? Are you comparing this to a movie? Lol
These were active and non active vets at that event among hundreds of others viewing. Who said anything about them being more deserving over others to have a voice? This is simply a rally to show that the troops support Ron Paul. To get their voice out because they are being ignored by the main stream media. This was a good way for the troops to get heard despite the lack of appearance by the MSM. But you keep posting irrelevant shit lol.
I'm showing about 21% and his polls show he is favored over Obama, if not tied.
I would say so too which is why this is not the case. Do you just like reading your own words?
Lol you are a fool. Do you know who Adam Kokesh is at all? Do you know anything about him and why he is so active with his Ron Paul support and his stance against the war? Apparently you don't know shit about this movement, I can tell.
Strawman continues.
I suggest you take the time to actually understand what I'm posting in the thread instead of making a fool out of yourself lol.
Troops marching on a nation's capital in support of a fringe politician is rarely a good sign.
Now that's not to say that I think Ron Paul is a populist military dictator in the making, that would be ridiculous. Just that saying soldiers support someone isn't in of itself a good argument for why that person should be given power.
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I hope you realize you completely wasted your time.
These troops are against the war after experiencing it for themselves. They are marching on the white house against Obama and his foreign policy. They saluted to all the fallen troops that were under Obama's orders once they got to the front gates. By doing so they announce that they support Ron Paul for president.
I make a thread about it.
You: OH SO BECAUSE THE TROOPS SUPPORT RON PAUL WE SHOULD TOO!? OH NO WAY MAN THATS SUCH A FALLACY MAN.
You're a fool. You can support any damn person you feel like. I'm here showing this movement. All these troops want to do is be heard.
Not when our president has us in an unwinnable war. Record breaking stats showing the increase in suicides from returning troops. Sending people overseas for war profitting
Good thing no one is making that argument right?
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