I wanted Malgus to really shine after Vitiate's death.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Yeah, Malgus was cool and has a good backstory IMO. His false emperor story didn't really do anything to make his story better.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
That quote was written from Yoda's own perspective. Thus he could be wrong, and since theres a whole host of Jedi throughout history whose level of power he isn't an authority on, we can't say he's likely to be right either. Besides which is how ridiculous it is to say that Yoda's the fiercest foe of darkness ever.
No, he's a force user. Almost all force users have fast reflexes by default, but we shouldn't just grant Vitiate with Sidious-level speed in a vs. forum just because he is extremely powerful. Force speed, as with almost any force power, is not just reliant on power alone, but a certain level of mastery as well. We don't grant ROTS Sidious with Vitiate's level of telepathy on account of being extremely powerful, so why should we make an exception for Vitiate? Sidious had to hone his speed and reflexes under Plagueis' training, and learned how to use it in combat. It wasn't just granted to him just because he was basically the dark side's ultimate tool and likely had the greatest potential of any sith in history. No, he had to work for it and hone it.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Anyway, his point is that if we can't say Vitiate is superduper fast simply by virtue of being a powerful Sith Lord if we can't say ROTS Sidious is a superduper telepath by virtue of being a comparably powerful Sith Lord.
That's right. That's his point. He's saying that the same standards that preclude ROTS Sidious from being comparable to Vitiate as a telepath (no feats) preclude Vitiate from being comparable to ROTS Sidious in speed (no feats).
If speed is an argument then it should be kept in mind that Vitiate can unleash his Force powers at such a speed that he doesn't grants opportunity to any kind of opponent to even land a blow at him, let alone blitz him. This of-course excludes his vulnerable condition, but even in his vulnerable condition, he didn't get blitzed by a supremely talented swordsman.
The whole matter is a complex one; precognition; reaction-rate; command of the Force; training; all of these factors jointly come in to play. Vitiate is not to be underestimated in these aspects.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Jul 26th, 2013 at 02:31 AM
"Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides."
Up till 19 years before Yavin, Yoda is the most powerful Jedi
Jul 15th, 2013 03:16 AM
