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Prof. T.C McAbe
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Supermans strength is dynamic, he can push himself beyond his standard strength levels. Hulks strength is only limitless by hyperbole, by feats Superman beats him easily. So we end up with hyperbole vs actual strength feats and those suggest that Superman lives up to his hype, Hulk doesn't.


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Supermans strength is dynamic, he can push himself beyond his standard strength levels. Hulks strength is only limitless by hyperbole, by feats Superman beats him easily. So we end up with hyperbole vs actual strength feats and those suggest that Superman lives up to his hype, Hulk doesn't.


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They've both got insane feats but it's not all about feats. There's power scaling involved as well.

So for instance when Hulk easily and consistently overpowers the likes of Thor and Gladiator (physically), then by default he has the equivalent of feats which vastly outstrip anything the 2 of those have done.


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Yep, and Batman Prime has convinced me that fights doesn't matter. We go by fts. Batman P also said that the JLA Darkseid fought was watered down.


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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
They've both got insane feats but it's not all about feats. There's power scaling involved as well.

So for instance when Hulk easily and consistently overpowers the likes of Thor and Gladiator (physically), then by default he has the equivalent of feats which vastly outstrip anything the 2 of those have done.

Consistently overpowers Hulk and Gladiator, bullshit...

Doesn't matter anyways, Superman has better feats and he also has dynamic strength (just like Thor or any main-character with Super-strength).


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Consistently overpowers Hulk and Gladiator, bullshit...

Doesn't matter anyways, Superman has better feats and he also has dynamic strength (just like Thor or any main-character with Super-strength).

None of them have true dynamic power. Certainly nowhwere near on the same level Hulk does.

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Consistently overpowers Hulk and Gladiator, bullshit...

Doesn't matter anyways, Superman has better feats and he also has dynamic strength (just like Thor or any main-character with Super-strength).


I meant to say Thor and Gladiator, haha.

He doesn't consistently overpower Gladiator though. He fought Gladiator once, where he was getting overpowered and then won because Gladiator was nearby a radioactive plant...which drained him for some reason.


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I meant to say Thor and Gladiator, haha.

He doesn't consistently overpower Gladiator though. He fought Gladiator once, where he was getting overpowered and then won because Gladiator was nearby a radioactive plant...which drained him for some reason.


I meant consistently Physically overpower people of that caliber. He's proven himself stronger than Gladiator the one time they fought and has consistently proven himself to be considerably stronger than Thor. Thor and Gladiator are on a similar level strength wise.

Hulk was beating Glads before he started getting drained. The draining was just part of the end put down.

Either way it was clear Hulk was stronger. Overall Power is something different to whose Physically stronger which is what we're talking about here.

Besides wasn't that a weaker incarnation of Hulk? Certainly weaker than Current Hulk, but still clearer stronger than Gladiator.

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I meant consistently Physically overpower people of that caliber. He's proven himself stronger than Gladiator the one time they fought and has consistently proven himself to be considerably stronger than Thor. Thor and Gladiator are on a similar level strength wise.

Hulk was beating Glads before he started getting drained. The draining was just part of the end put down.

Either way it was clear Hulk was stronger. Overall Power is something different to whose Physically stronger which is what we're talking about here.

Besides wasn't that a weaker incarnation of Hulk? Certainly weaker than Current Hulk, but still clearer stronger than Gladiator.


Gladiator was weakened at the time. The Hulk fighting him is not the Hulk proving that he's stronger than him. That's just the Hulk fighting him.

He has not proven himself to be considerably stronger, and Thor still has better strength feats.

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Gladiator was weakened at the time.


Gladiator was beaten before the radiation from the nuclear core became a factor. Gladiator was not weakened when Hulk was dragging his bleeding, limp, defenseless body around.

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He has not proven himself to be considerably stronger,


Yes, he has. Numerous times. The Hulk vs Thor strength thing ceased to be a debate decades ago.

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and Thor still has better strength feats.


No. Just... no.


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Sock, please.

The core went active the second Gladiator and the Hulk crashed.

How do you think the Hulk became aware of Gladiator's weakness to radiation?

And Gladiator was beaten by his own devices, it had nothing to do with strength, it was him not shutting off his eyebeams no expression


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Sock, please.

The core went active the second Gladiator and the Hulk crashed.


The core did go critical when they crash landed. But nuclear reactors have some pretty serious shielding that prevents radiation from escaping; there was never any indication that this had been breached.

If the radiation was leaking out, why did Hulk need to take Gladiator in to the core to trigger his radiation weakness?

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How do you think the Hulk became aware of Gladiator's weakness to radiation?


The clear inference is that Gladiator's own eye beams being reflected back on to himself triggered the radiation weakness. Hulk had no idea the reactor was going critical at that point; Gladiator attributed his pain to the "feedback" of his own eye beams.

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And Gladiator was beaten by his own devices, it had nothing to do with strength, it was him not shutting off his eyebeams no expression


Never said otherwise.

Your tacit concessions - that Hulk is indeed considerably stronger than Thor, and that Hulk indeed has superior strength feats to Thor - are both accepted, by the way.


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Get off the trolling, troll smile


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Get off the trolling, troll smile


How very droll.

Your numerous tacit concessions are accepted.


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Don't worry, sock, there's plenty of room in my ignore list.

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So krisblaze is having a meltdown?

Hulk wins, easily.


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Lol...yeah he is having a melt down. It's hilarious he quote comics he doesn't know a thing about just to try and make Hulk look bad. His hate for this character is hilarious. By the way, good posts LGU.


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Also, a calm Hulk just beat an amped Ironman (who in this same story hit Hulk with a continent and a state and then after this, he got in a more amplified armor and hit Hulk with everything he had and Hulk walked through it) with one punch and then ripped his armor like tissue paper. Lol at him saying Ironman wins, and he is calling LGU a troll. Really?

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Hulk does not consistently overpower Thor physically. It's a give and take, but slightly in Hulk's favor.


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