Yes, as I said to Intrepid, I know that. But he wasn't holding back in RoT against her. You could interpret it that way if you twisted it, but it doesn't actual say that. It says that he's flat out faster than she could imagine. Period. Not out of the orbalisks or at his age, can't imagine it period. She can imagine him being that fast because she's already seen him be that fast. If you've seen something you can imagine it. Bane has to be faster than then for it to be unimaginable to her.
Its also right there: He was faster than she could ever have imagined.
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Except we already know that Bane is, in fact, slower than he was in the past. Thus logic dictates that my interpretation is the more probable one. It clearly means that Bane was faster than she could have ever imagined in his aged, non-orbalisked condition.
The fact that you, of all people, are not pushing this for Bane, of all people, is proof enough that resuscitating your "argument" is beyond even all your powers of moronic bullshit.
At the back of the library was a nondescript door; beyond it, Zannah could sense the power of the dark side. It called out to her, like the vibrations of a churning engine thrumming through the floor. Approaching carefully, she felt the power grow. It wasn't coming from any person or creature; she knew the sensation of a living being attuned to the Force. This was different. It reminded her of the invisible pulses of energy she had felt emanating from the Force crystals she had used to construct her lightsaber.
-Dynasty of Evil
Good to see that you concede that, without nexus', Bane hasn't anything on Maul in terms of power.
Seems so to me. Either way, that's speculation and I'm not gonna pass my interpretation off as canon.
Agreed with your last sentence.
Canonically, he's a fraction slower than he had once been.
Sure it is.
Yep.
The two droids fired at Obi-Wan, but he batted their fired energy bolts back at them and cut them down as he moved fast for Dooku. Unfortunately, Dooku moved faster, extending his left hand toward Obi-Wan as he used the Force to lift the Jedi off his feet while at the same time constricting his throat.
-The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
Yep.
But Obi-Wan, while not so experienced as Qui-Gon, was quicker. Anticipating each blow, he was able to elude his antagonist's efforts to bring him down.
-The Phantom Menace
rofl
Get your facts right. When Maul couldn't track Sidious' blade, it wasn't after starving for a month... it was after a training section:
The lightsaber whirls in the air, twirling, held in my Master's hand. I can't track it, it moves so fast. But I know it's heading for me.
Lord Sidious moves faster than my eye can follow. I smell heat and smoke. The laser traces the outline of my body, my face, my hands. The buzz is loud in my ear. One flinch, one involuntary twitch of a muscle, and I am dead.
I do not flinch.
At last, Lord Sidious deactivates my weapon. He tosses it toward me. The sweat on my palm almost causes me to drop it.
-Episode I Journal: Darth Maul
Is it not obvious that, when a planet feels strong with the dark side, that it is a nexus?
That has nothing to do with it. We know for a fact that DoE Bane is slower than once. She never imagined him to be as fast because he'd held back in his training sessions... is that so hard to grasp?
haha. Maul has moved ''easily five times faster'' than a normal human: Bane moving twice as fast as a human is not as impressive, neither is his other feats you mentioned.
Again, nexus and with double the blades, both increasing the amount of afterimages he'd make.
Anakin is faster than Dooku, and Yoda is faster than Anakin. By much? No, but it's still a difference.
Being faster than Anakin puts Yoda tiers above Bane in terms of speed.
When you assume you make an ass out of u and me.
Answer honestly: do you really think Maul produced ten thousands of lunges in his fight in TPM? Against Anoon Bondara or his apprentice?
Might have missed your point. You just said she had impressive defensive qualities.
Except we know nothing of Bane's power inbetween DoE and RoT and it'd be ridiculous for Karpyshan to refer to such a period because of just that: our lack of knowledge of it.
Except Bane isn't a better duelist than Maul. Bane lost to Kas'im, was winning against Zannah and, if I recall so, was losing against the Jedi in RoT. Maul has beaten Jinn, Bondara, Kenobi, Bondara's padawan (forgot name) and random Jedi in Sith Hunters.
The common conclusion os made by Obi-Wan fanboys who ignore context of their fights. Really, Maul has already defeated him in Season 4 final and then fought him equally (while not ready and holding back) in Season 5.
Yeah, no. Maul has survived a month fighting assassin droids with no food or water, still being strong enough to attempt defeating Sidious afterwards.
'The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.'
Thank god that bit is non-canon because Palpatine and Mace fighting at lightspeed is pants on head retarded. Although its actually in the Force so what even is happening I dunno?
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Hmmmm, 'a call to the Force summons an exponential flood.'
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Oh hey:
The Lusankya—a Super Star Destroyer eight kilometers length—laid waste to the area beneath which it had lain buried for years. Green turbolaser bolts pounded the cityscape, freeing the ship from the ferrocrete and transparisteel prison in which it had laired. Wedge knew Super Star Destroyers had only come into service after the Battle of Yavin, which meant the Lusankya had to have been created and hidden on Coruscant before the battle of Endor. Unless the constructor droids just built it there, then built over it. The idea that a hundred-square-kilometer area of the planet could have been razed and rebuilt to hide a Super Star Destroyer seemed beyond belief, especially with no one noticing the ship's insertion into the hole. Could the Emperor's power through the dark side of the Force have been sufficient to compel thousands or millions of people to forget having seen the Lusankya being buried? As hideous as that idea seemed, Wedge hoped it was the truth. The likely alternative—that the Emperor had ordered the deaths of all the witnesses—seemed that much more horrible.
--Taken from
X-Wing: Krytos Trap
So it isn't actually fact that Palpatine erased those peoples minds huh? Apparantly its not even likely. Interesting that Gideon never mentioned that whenever he brought the feat up.
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Mace and Sidious being that fast is retarded. Other Force Users have demonstrated that the gap between them and regular people is not so vast. Maul for instance dueled evenly with Vizla, who is peak human at best. Regular people defeat Jedi hundreds of times in the mythos. There are countless other instances of Jedi being sub-supersonic in terms of speed. If Mace and Sidious are that fast they would be hundreds of thousands of times faster than regular Jedi.
That gap in speed is retarded.
Bane's speed is tame in comparison and perfectly acceptable as him being just extremely high-end in terms of speed.
Jul 9th, 2013 10:34 PM
Okay, whatever you need to say to get away with your dignity I guess.
