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Who is the better strategist during combat???
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Originally posted by Mindset
Read your post again...the post about leading teams and nations. no expression


The teams and nations part was in reference to Cyke vs BP in response to Sin.

Grayson < Batman is in reference to the overall thread, thus my pointing back to it by telling you to read the thread title again.

Dick being greater at "leading a team" is moot.


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Originally posted by Odekahn
The teams and nations part was in reference to Cyke vs BP in response to Sin.

Grayson < Batman is in reference to the overall thread, thus my pointing back to it by telling you to read the thread title again.

Dick being greater at "leading a team" is moot.
Except Sin was talking about leading a team and you replied to her in regards to the ability to lead a team.

Also, the thread doesn't say this is solely about 1v1 fights, so it looks like you don't know what you're talking about, bud.


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Except Sin was talking about leading a team and you replied to her in regards to the ability to lead a team.

Also, the thread doesn't say this is solely about 1v1 fights, so it looks like you don't know what you're talking about, bud.





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No.

Sin was talking about who the better strategist is and said Cyke was due to his leading the Xmen (this is the first time "leading" has been mentioned here), so I addressed that point, but first asked what the reasoning behind saying Dick > Bruce. It had absolutely nothing to do with which of them (Bruce or Dick) was better at leading a team.

And the thread doesn't say 1v1 OR team leading. Both of those are smaller parts of a bigger picture you apparently don't see.


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No.

Sin was talking about who the better strategist is and said Cyke was due to his leading the Xmen (this is the first time "leading" has been mentioned here), so I addressed that point, but first asked what the reasoning behind saying Dick > Bruce. It had absolutely nothing to do with which of them (Bruce or Dick) was better at leading a team.

And the thread doesn't say 1v1 OR team leading. Both of those are smaller parts of a bigger picture you apparently don't see.
Yes, so Sin was talking about leading a team, and you responded in kind.

I told you how Dick was better than Bruce.

In reply you told me to read the thread title...

You seem confused.


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out of all?
tough but im going with Panther

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Yes, so Sin was talking about leading a team, and you responded in kind.

I told you how Dick was better than Bruce.

In reply you told me to read the thread title...

You seem confused.


But the overall point isn't who can lead a team. So, my directing you to the title was also a way of saying/encouraging, "get back on topic". I guess subtlety isn't making its impression known...


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But the overall point isn't who can lead a team. So, my directing you to the title was also a way of saying/encouraging, "get back on topic". I guess subtlety isn't making its impression known...
How is skill in leading a team in combat situations not applicable to prowess in combat strategy?


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Batman is a better 1v1 and 1v10000000 strategist then nightwing is but nightwing is a better team leader then Batman is but that's my opinion.

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How is skill in leading a team in combat situations not applicable to prowess in combat strategy?


I didn't say it wasn't applicable, I said it's not the overall point. It's only a fraction of the question we are answering here. Possessing the best strategical mind and knowing how to socially communicate to a team are two entirely different things.


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I didn't say it wasn't applicable, I said it's not the overall point. It's only a fraction of the question we are answering here. Possessing the best strategical mind and knowing how to socially communicate to a team are two entirely different things.
You're only thinking about a small part of leading.


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You're only thinking about a small part of leading.


You are only thinking about a small part of combat strategy. Leading skill falls underneath that category. I'm looking at the entire picture.


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Either way to sum it up Dick is far better than Wayne. Possessing the charisma that Bruce lacks he's arguably the best team leader DC has imo.


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Either way to sum it up Dick is far better than Wayne. Possessing the charisma that Bruce lacks he's arguably the best team leader DC has imo.


But Dick isn't a better strategist during combat, which is what the thread is asking. Bruce > Grayson


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Also I wish people would stop placing tchalla so high. Namor, Aquaman, Black Bolt, Doom, etc all lead nations that don't mean they excel under tue thread stips


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But Dick isn't a better strategist during combat, which is what the thread is asking. Bruce > Grayson


I read the op and your still wrong


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I read the op and your still wrong


How?


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How?


Bruce and Clark have both admitted that Dick is far better than the two. He has the best attributes of both without the character flaws of Bruce or god complex of Kent. He's effectively lead more teams and his combat strategy is second to none. And I'm not talking about prep battles, I'm talking strictly combat strategy.


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And as far as this thread goes. It should be expanded to All comic book characters not just those mentioned cause Optimus Prime, Leonardo and Rick Grimes would shit on Bruce Wayne not to mention a ass ton of others


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Also I wish people would stop placing tchalla so high. Namor, Aquaman, Black Bolt, Doom, etc all lead nations that don't mean they excel under tue thread stips


Wakanda just beat Atlantis in war. T'Challa consistently beats Namor in combat due to a weapon that Namor knows he has but fails to account for it. The only one on that list comparable to T'Challa is Doom, even then T'Challa is able to out strategize Doom at times, though he always takes significant losses.

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