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Emperor Vitiate, Exar Kun and Darth Sidious Vs Revan,Luke Skywalker and Yoda
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Stealth Moose
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EMPEROR: NNAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! MY HANDD!!! YOU'VE CUT OFF MY HANNNDDDD!!!!!!


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That's adorable.


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SWTOR(E) notes that Sith Emperor broke Revan and Malak with a fraction of his power

With prep + nexus.
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SWTOR(R) notes that Sith Emperor subdued Scourge with just a minor mental brush.

With prep + nexus + how is this that impressive anyway?
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SWTOR(G) notes that Sith Emperor disturbs his surroundings with just his mere presence

And Nihilus kills it with his presence.
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And that Sith Emperor can break even the most powerful of the Jedi with his telepathic powers.

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2. Plagueis isn't confirmed to be Vitiate's superior. This is another BS from you.

He's stated to be the most powerful Sith Lord in history until Sidious comes along. The book was published same year as SWTOR.


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I am not. Go ahead and read the fights. lol Saying I am "lying" is funny, because it obviously shows you have not read any material on Luke.

Yes, you are minimizing details.

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Oh rly?
I posted Luke vs Sidious above.
Here's the Caedus fight: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t584911.html
Here's the Lumiya fight:
"Come on, Luke, try to finish the job. Mara would have wanted that, yes?" Lumiya reached up to her face and tore away the veil that covered everything but her eyes. Then she reached behind her back and slowly drew out her lightwhip. "And this isn't to make you feel shame for the extent of my injuries. I just want you to see who you're fighting."

"I'm seeing." Luke drew his lightsaber and temporary comfort flooded him. "And this ends here."

He knew the lightwhip by now. He'd relied on the shoto as an extra weapon in the past to counter the whip's twin elements of matter and energy, but he was flooded with a new confidence that he could take her with just the lightsaber that had always stood between him and darkness. Holding it two-handed over his head, he rotated it slowly, stalking around her.

Lumiya raised her arm to flick the whip and get the momentum for the forward stroke. And then she cracked it, sending forks of dark energy crackling into the ground at his feet, making him jump back before he sprang forward again and brought the lightsaber around in a right-to-left arc that she parried with the whip's handle. He leapt out of range of the whirling tails again and again, then she paused and he edged closer again.

"You hate me that much?" he asked.

"I don't hate you at all."

"You killed her. You killed my Mara."

"Nothing personal." She looked as if she was smiling, but the movement was around her eyes rather than her cybernetic mouth. "Just doing what I swore an oath to the Emperor to do. To serve the dark side. Oaths matter, Luke. They're all you're left with in the end."

She drew back her arm and brought the lightwhip crackling through the air, missing Luke by centimeters. He lunged at her again and again, driven back each time. She'd slow sooner or later.

But so would he.

Then, as she began to raise her arm again, he ran at her, so close in that she couldn't get the whip traveling at its maximum lethal speed. He forced her back, step by step, as she tried to maintain the distance she needed.

One—two—three—four; she blocked him, handle held this way, then that, using the whip like a short lightsaber to deflect him, but Luke didn't pause or shift direction to wrong-foot her. He drove her like a battering ram toward the edge of the mesa, pushing her within meters, then a step, of the edge.

Lumiya held the whip handle in both hands like a staff and blocked his downward sweep. For a moment they were locked in a stalemate, pushing against each other and grunting with the effort, with only the sounds of exertion because they had nothing left to say to each other.

Her rear foot began to slide backward as she struggled for purchase. The edge of the mesa was cracked and fissured. The smooth glittering stone began to crumble.

Luke reached out and caught her hand as she fell, whip tumbling and bouncing down the steep rock face into oblivion. He leaned back, all his weight on his heels, knuckles clenched white with the strain of holding her weight, and for a second he wanted to see her face dwindling as she fell to her death, mouth open in a scream, but that wasn't the way to end this.

"I'd never let you fall," Luke said, and pulled her back to safety. As she straightened up, he looked her in the eyes—calm, eerily calm—and swung his lightsaber in a single decapitating arc.

Now he could breathe again.


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No. It is "the most powerful force user the galaxy has ever seen."
I don't recall anyone seeing the Mortis family besides the Celestials.

All of the Star Wars related events occurred in a single galaxy. Nice attempt at dodging the statement, didn't work.

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uh, Yuuzhan Vong? I can argue the mortis family as well if you wish?
Also, even if it occurred in the galaxy, it says "seen", the galaxy doesn't know of the Mortis family. Nice attempt at trying to make Vitiate look good, didn't work.


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With prep + nexus.

Prove that Dromund Kaas is a nexus on the whole and Sith Emperor specially prepared for encounter with Revan and Malak apart from Revan's own belief.

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With prep + nexus + how is this that impressive anyway?

See above

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And Nihilus kills it with his presence.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Nihilus subconsciously drains his surroundings which can result in deaths of defenseless individuals around him if exposed to his draining power in prolonged fashion. In contrast, Sith Emperor subconsciously disturbs his surroundings with just his telepathic abilities.

In the nutshell, two very different developments here.

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Quote?

Here:

The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen. His corrupting influence is so complete that none can stand in his presence without succumbing to fear, anger and hatred. The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side. Jedi Master Tol Braga’s strike team was not the first group to succumb to the Sith leader’s oppressive influence. Hundreds of years ago, the Jedi Revan and Malak discovered Dromund Kaas and confronted the Emperor. They fell to the dark side and returned to Republic space as Sith Lords. Since then, dozens more Jedi have followed the same path into evil.

Information from SWTOR(G).

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He's stated to be the most powerful Sith Lord in history until Sidious comes along. The book was published same year as SWTOR.

Sith Emperor is a Sith only in symbolic/pretention context.

SWDP was released prior to SWTOR(E) by the way; author of SWDP didn't had the option to chance to read SWTOR(E) by the way.

Nonetheless, Sith Emperor's accolades are neutral in nature and rank him on a more grand scale then just within Sith Order. No comparison here.

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uh, Yuuzhan Vong? I can argue the mortis family as well if you wish?

Vong possibly came from another galaxy but the events of Star Wars take place in the same galaxy in all of its eras.

Mortis existed in the same galaxy as well. Anakin and co. didn't travel to another galaxy to greet The Ones.

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Also, even if it occurred in the galaxy, it says "seen", the galaxy doesn't know of the Mortis family. Nice attempt at trying to make Vitiate look good, didn't work.

Here is another:

The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed.

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Prove it

He knew Revan/Malak was coming and set up a [b]trap[/b[and was on a Nexus.
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Prove it

He was in his throne room on Droumand Kaas.
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The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side.

*strongest Jedi of the time*
They know not of Luke, Yoda, etc.


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Depending on if Shitviate is prepped and what era of Luke

Team 1 takes it in a bloodbath


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He knew Revan/Malak was coming and set up a [b]trap[/b[and was on a Nexus.

He knew about the Jedi Strike Team as well, he is very well aware of his surroundings. This doesn't implies that he specially prepares for his encounters.

In addition, Dromund Kaas isn't a nexus on the whole. Try again.

Q: What kind of preparation does he needs by the way?

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He was in his throne room on Droumand Kaas.

This isn't a nexus.

Only these two places are confirmed to be nexuses within Dromund Kass thus far:

- Dark Temple
- Dark Force Temple

Their might be other regions but Citadel isn't a nexus and neither is Kaas city.

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*strongest Jedi of the time*
They know not of Luke, Yoda, etc.

That statement is neutral.

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Only these two places are confirmed to be nexuses within Dromund Kass thus far:

- Dark Temple
- Dark Force Temple

Their might be other regions but Citadel isn't a nexus and neither is Kaas city.

FOTJ Luke Skywalker begs to differ.

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He knew about the Jedi Strike Team as well, he is very well aware of his surroundings. This doesn't implies that he specially prepares for his encounters.

Why wouldn't he?


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FOTJ Luke Skywalker begs to differ.


3000 years in the future.


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I'm pretty sure that both the book and the TOR codex entry does state that Dromund Kaas is strong with the dark side.


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FOTJ Luke Skywalker begs to differ.

- SWTOR(R) doesn't acknowledges Dromund Kaas as a nexus on the whole.
- SWTOR(E) only notes Dark Temple as a nexus. Sith Emperor created this nexus actually.

Luke visited this planet many years afterwards. Also, he might have felt overwhelmed by power of the dark side on Dromund Kaas and regarded it as a nexus but he isn't an authority in this matter.

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Why wouldn't he?

What kind of preparation?

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I'm pretty sure that both the book and the TOR codex entry does state that Dromund Kaas is strong with the dark side.


Not everywhere with some dark side is a nexus. Even if it is a nexus its a weak one, since it doesn't negatively effect the populace any.


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Not everywhere with some dark side is a nexus. Even if it is a nexus its a weak one, since it doesn't negatively effect the populace any.

You can refrain from calling the locations for names, but worlds strong with the dark side does help dark side practitioners


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Negligibly at best.


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You can refrain from calling the locations for names, but worlds strong with the dark side does help dark side practitioners

Like how

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Like how

They grant additional powers to the Force practitioner in question.


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