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Emperor Vitiate, Exar Kun and Darth Sidious Vs Revan,Luke Skywalker and Yoda
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carthage
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He said he wasn't referring to Desann


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lol


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Ant is desperate


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Ant is desperate

I knew there was a reason I always liked you.


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You sure it wasn't because of my boyish charm?


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You sure it wasn't because of my boyish charm?

I like the girlish side of you better.


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Ant is desperate

1. When I left SWF, you can't imagine how happy I was I wouldn't have to deal with you and Jack again. Imagine how heartbroken I am now.
2. What am I desperate about?


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Desann fight:



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I'm going to get a restraining order on you so you can't get as close as 5 topics from me. I swear.


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However, SWTOR(E) notes that Sith Emperor is a brilliant tactician as well.


Management role requires decent team-building and managing skills. In short, prerequisite.

Ok. Next time I want to beat a bunch of thugs on the street, I'll make sure I take my manager with me.

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lol


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Ok. Next time I want to beat a bunch of thugs on the street, I'll make sure I take my manager with me.

You should pay attention to entire point of mine instead of nitpicking within it for your amusement.

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Sith Emperor isn't a mindless being, he is calculative and practical.

Analogy: When Scourge backstabbed Meetra, this diverted Revan's attention and Sith Emperor immediately took advantage. He even pointed out to Scourge that his actions were less then satisfactory.

Sith Emperor held on to his thrown due to combination of his sheer brilliance and power. Expect Sith Emperor to be a good at teamwork.

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You should pay attention to entire point of mine instead of nitpicking within it for your amusement.


Can't follow your analogy. He didn't even see Meetra's lightsaber throw coming. With such lousy battle awareness he is more of a liability than help.

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Can't follow your analogy. He didn't even see Meetra's lightsaber throw coming. With such lousy battle awareness he is more of a liability than help.

That analogy is the real thing; one Sith distracted Revan and the other Sith (Emperor) capitalized on the opportunity. This is good example of cooperation/teamwork.

As far as your argument is concerned, you overlooked some key facts:

1. Meetra was far from Emperor's position and busy with the Imperial Guard
2. Emperor was busy with Revan
3. Meetra's attack came as a surprise from such a distance while events were unfolding in the manner as they did

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As far as your argument is concerned, you overlooked some key facts:

1. Meetra was far from Emperor's position and busy with the Imperial Guard
2. Emperor was busy with Revan
3. Meetra's attack came as a surprise from such a distance while events were unfolding in the manner as they did

These key points only enforce that while Vitiate focuses on one opponent, the other opponent can strike him down.

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These key points only enforce that while Vitiate focuses on one opponent, the other opponent can strike him down.

Not so fast:

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Sith Emperor can focus on multiple opponents and defeat them simultaneously if he wants to.

It is unwise of you to just consider the dynamics of encounter between Revan and Sith Emperor and make judgments about Sith Emperor from it. You are not focusing on the bigger picture.

If Sith Emperor was so easy to take down, he wouldn't have lasted so long as Emperor of a Sith Empire since some of his followers would just have ganged-up on him and usurped him from the throne.

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Sith Emperor can focus on multiple opponents and defeat them simultaneously if he wants to.

It is unwise of you to just consider the dynamics of encounter between Revan and Sith Emperor and make judgments about Sith Emperor from it. You are not focusing on the bigger picture.

I don't see how attacking with lightning a group of Jedi standing in one place proves Vitiate's awareness of entire battle. It's just an AOE attack, it doesn't demonstrate good awareness during a fight.
In any case AOE is unwise. Vitiate will be lucky to overpower any single opponent with concentrated attack, spreading it on several opponents will reduce potency.

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If Sith Emperor was so easy to take down, he wouldn't have lasted so long as Emperor of a Sith Empire since some of his followers would just have ganged-up on him and usurped him from the throne.

That does not prove anything.

But actually Jedi team has the same problem here. Revan demonstrated his incompetence, when instead of helping his team mates to quickly get read of guards, he bull-rushed Vitiate alone. On top of that we know that Vitiate can overpower Revan for sure. So unless Luke and Yoda can babysit Revan or boost him with battle meditation/battle-meld, it is a 2vs3 fight.

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According to George Lucas Luke is Sidious + Sidious. I'd put Sidious above Exar Kun so right there Luke defeats most of team one while Yoda and Revan battle the Sith Emperor. They may prevail on their own, given Yoda's immense power is approaching HoT but of course his advanced age and limited size is what got on his way with the equally powerful Sidious.

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