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carthage
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Yoda and Mace vs ROTJ Luke, ROTS Anakin, and ROTS Kenobi

All out

Battle takes place on neutral ground


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Team 1 destroys.


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Team 1 takes them to the curb


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If bloodlusted then yeah team one stomps but if it's their usual selves they'll take their time with it.

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Yoda takes this alone.


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Team 2 has a fair chance.


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Team 2 has a fair chance.


No they don't. Yoda alone would absolutely demolish this team. Luke will very likely get blitzed.


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Luke as of this point has woven tapestries of light with his blade and deflected furious hail storms of blaster bolts casually, and was faster than Vader. I have my doubts that Yoda would be blitzing him, especially when he has such heavy support.

I have my doubts Yoda could 'absolutely demolish' Anakin lone.


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Yoda isnt soloing this but team 1 wins for sure.


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Blitzing is the new black


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Yoda isnt soloing this but team 1 wins for sure.


The hell he isn't. Kenobi and Luke's reactions aren't so far above the likes of Kolar that they won't get lol blitzed.


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Luke gets Saber blitzed. Kenobi and Skywalker get the same treatment from Yoda that Sidious gave the Maul Bros.

So yeah Yoda solos. Adding Mace is serious overkill.

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Team 1 ragdolls.

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The hell he isn't. Kenobi and Luke's reactions aren't so far above the likes of Kolar that they won't get lol blitzed.


They're also not so far below Dooku's reactions that they would, especially collectively.

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They're also not so far below Dooku's reactions that they would, especially collectively.



Kenobi's certainly not. But ROTJ Luke? Think he's completely outclassed here through no fault of his own. He was extremely gifted to come as far as he did in such a short period. But in the big scheme of things, he was still at Padawan level.

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Padawan level? Lol

He may have technically been a Padawan throughout most of RotJ but he was more skilled than most knights or even masters.

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Windu & Yoda.


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Padawan level? Lol

He may have technically been a Padawan throughout most of RotJ but he was more skilled than most knights or even masters.



Based on what? The way he swung his Saber around like a bat? Or based on Lucas calling him only "half" trained?

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How about him being an equal to Darth Vader?


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How about him being an equal to Darth Vader?



Lucas says he wasn't.

You have to stop going by Pre-Prequel comics and novels which have been retconned (e.g. Owen is not Ben's brother) and go by all the recent quotes by the creators of official canon.


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Urmm.. No. A 16 year old novel made before the Prequels doesn not hold up as evidence against Lucas's own words in the audio commentary of the films post Prequels.

According to Lucas, Luke is not a match for Vader as of ROTJ:

"In coming back to see Yoda we have to figure out Luke's training and the fact that he never finished his training and obviously now he's got a big question he wants answered. There is a point where the hero has to be left on his own 2 feet without anyone there to help him. And you can sort of have him be in a different place for something, but at some point you have to say now all the props have been taken away and he has to face the evil monster alone. In this case the scene established that the evil monster is actually his Father, and he's going to have to do it on his own, and that he's not really equipped to do it. He was too impatient, he didn't finish his studies, and now he's going to be HALF Trained to face a difficult physical and emotional challenge.

George Lucas, Return of the Jedi Audio Commentary.


Dave Filoni who is a creator of a big part of PT and OT era Canon and who worked with and talked to George Lucas daily about the story and characters says Luke was never going to defeat Vader or the Emperor with a Lightsaber. He wasn't trained well enough. His mission was always to bring Vader back to the Lightside through Love.

"I mean, on a basic level at this point he’s so much better trained than Luke could ever be. It’s just an interesting take on what are all these other people that have the Force doing? And how do we not have that interfere with the blinding light, the New Hope that Luke Skywalker becomes? Luke’s mission in the Force is very specific. Learn to be selfless. Selfless enough to save your Father. To realize that you can forgive and redeem. And that’s a bit different than where we’re going with Ezra and Kanan for sure."

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-...ew-dave-filoni/


"And Luke, let's face it, he was never really the best. I have a notion that anyone on the Council could really kick his butt. He had a lot of heart though, right? He had a lot going for him. And almost it was what he didn't know that made him really dangerous to the Emperor, it's just love for his father -- but he wasn't going to take you out with his lightsaber skills, that was for sure. "

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/03/...ack-at-season-4

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