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abhilegend
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Originally posted by CadenceV2
I have never seen such a collection of Superman fans as on this forum.

Zoom wins with minor difficulty.

Oh really? What is so wrong to demand proof of Zoom beating at least one top tier character?

Or is it really hard for you to come with an argument based on actual comics?


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Originally posted by Laminator_X
A thermonuclear explosion releases energy on the scale of terra-Joules. If he wants to survive that (ignoring radiation poisoning and suffocation for the moment) he needs to slow down the explosion relative to himself to the point that that energy is spread out to such a degree that it's not injurious. Energy of the explosion is thus conserved, he's just adding a bunch of time to the energy transfer reduce the effective power.

Unfortunately for him, (and what you're overlooking) is that just like when he throws hundreds of punches in the blink of an eye he still has to live through all that time. To spread out TJ of energy release to a power level that he could survive, he would need to have to have billions of seconds go by in his own frame of reference for the brief moment of the explosion. One gigasecond is over thirty years.
You still don't understand. How does been burned work?
Heat is represented by how fast molecules are vibrating and moving. When a hot molecule (fast moving molecule) interacts with a slower molecule, it imparts momentum (collision) so that the slower molecule speeds up (becomes hotter). In reality, there is not such thing as hot since hot is basically a measure of how fast molecules are moving. Getting hit with something that is moving much faster than you will cause damage. But getting hit with something small that is moving the same speed as you or somewhat slower will not cause damage.

In conclusion, in order for Zoom to be burned, his molecules must vibrate faster than normal. But how can that happen when the radiation that's hitting him is moving and oscillating with speeds far less than his own molecules are moving. The heat from the blast might very well freeze him. Radiation poison cannot occur if one is not affected by the radiation (their molecules don't speed up significantly).

I'll help you out though. Zoom's powers are weird as phuck and may very well go against science more than any character in existence.
In reality, Zoom is suppose to be hot as phuck (hotter than the hottest stars), melting anything he touches. This is because his atoms and molecules are moving far faster than anything in the universe. The atmosphere should begin to freeze the shit out of him or him heat up the shit out of it.


So let's not discuss the physics of his powers. Let's just focus on stuff that is within the suspension of disbelief. Surely you agree that if an object can move faster than a bullet and has more mass than a bullet then it will hit harder than impart more kinetic energy to the target than a bullet would right?


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Zoom destroys Superman

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Supes should lose this one fighting within character. But if this was superboy prime hell just destroy the planet killing zoom.

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If the board rules essentially mean they fight more realistically than in the comics, then Flash and Zoom both beat Superman 100/10. End of discussion. It's not even that interesting.

The more interesting discussion is how it would go in the comics. Superman should win that.

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Superman punches him so hard his ears fall off.


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Zoom wins


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Has Zoom ever come back? He was cool.


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Love the double standards on both sides of this argument from the Superman lovers and Superman haters.

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