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The Emperor's Wrath vs The First Son
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Jaggarath
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Meetra wasn't weakened like you suggest... she was instinctively drawing off her entire companion roster.


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And where again was this directly stated, implied, or acknowledged? Wasn't this a part of the "why the Meetra in Revan is weaker" theory?


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Meetra wasn't weakened like you suggest... she was instinctively drawing off her entire companion roster.


Meetra quite clearly describes her condition on Malachor in the novel and she certainly wasn't 100% bro.


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@Skillz Nah, it's a direct quote. It was stated by the Jedi Masters:

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Vrook: "Yes.. you can feel the Force, but you cannot feel yourself. You are a cipher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others, siphoning their wills and dominating them. It is the teaching of these new Sith, to feed on others, on other Force Sensitives. They are symptomatic of the wound in the Force. You are a breach that must be closed. You transmit your pain, your suffering through the Force. Within you, we see something worse than merely the teaching of the Sith. What you carry may mean the death of the Force... and the death of the Jedi."

Exile: "But I can feel Force, strongly."

Vrook: "So you think. It is not the strength of a Jedi you feel."

Zez-Kai Ell: "He's right. It's... all the deaths you've caused to get here. You feed on it, and you grow stronger. You're like Malachor... it's in you, it's what you are now. You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds, only to grow more and more powerful. Why do you think that was?"

Kavar: "But what's worse is that bonding you have - it hasn't gone away. It's gotten stronger, and the more attachments you form, the more you draw others to you."

Vrook: "And that is why you are a threat to us all. [...] But it is of no consequence. Your ability to make such connections, such bonds so easily are why you cannot remain."


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So is that the explanation as to why Meetra is weaker in Revan?


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That's the accepted theory. She lost her wound... so she doesn't draw on the life around her, or feed on the death she achieves anymore.


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Also Meetra can't draw off her entire companions roster because 3 of them are droids. :V


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Glad you agree that Meetra was weakened in Revan. thumb up


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Also Meetra can't draw off her entire companions roster because 3 of them are droids. :V

You knew what I meant. erm
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Glad you agree that Meetra was weakened in Revan. thumb up

I always agreed that she was weakened... like, since the day I read the book.


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Glad you agree that Meetra was weakened in Revan. thumb up


Was that ever a question?
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inb4 mother Selenial's rage


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quote: (post)
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You knew what I meant. erm


I dunno man, "entire" doesn't pretty absolute.


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According to Marco, droids have midichlorians. So I win.


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inb4 mother Selenial's rage


Over what?
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@droids http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skippy_the_Jedi_Droid ... how the **** is this still canon?


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So Meetra was weakened in Revan, therefore bringing up her Malachor feat and scourge being equal to her revan incarnation holds no water, and ultimately doesn't have much bearing a comparison to the first son, someone a ways more powerful than even Nyriss, in all honesty.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I still win.


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Over what?

your mom tbh


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your mom tbh


Zing...
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So Meetra was weakened in Revan, therefore bringing up her Malachor feat and scourge being equal to her revan incarnation holds no water, and ultimately doesn't have much bearing a comparison to the first son, someone a ways more powerful than even Nyriss, in all honesty.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I still win.

Meetra wasn't weakened... the Exile was amplified. Somewhat big different, tbh.
And no, it still holds a lot of credibility if you balance it out with the soul hindering.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Meetra wasn't weakened... the Exile was amplified. Somewhat big different, tbh.
And no, it still holds a lot of credibility if you balance it out with the soul hindering.


Doesn't make a big difference how the power swings, just that its heavily in the Exile's favor. Bringing up the Malachor feat is legitimately pointless.


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