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What did Namor get hit with?
Feb 28th, 2015 04:11 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That scream was dumb. Especially when Hickman had half power BB ko Namor with a whisper.
It seemed he forgot what Namor got hit with in the next issue.
Hickman is like bendis in that regard. He will write power levels as it suits him. That's why a scream can bloody Thanos but not namor.
Or a celestial can tank attacks from IG but not from galactus.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:17 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ares834
What did Namor get hit with?
Black bolt screamed in his face. He was stunned for a few moments.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Black bolt screamed in his face. He was stunned for a few moments.
Well then again he wasn't trying to kill Namor. Remember Panther wanted him coherent enough so that he knows what just happened to him. While the Thanos one we know for damn sure Bolt was trying to end him right then and there.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:25 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Hickman is like bendis in that regard. He will write power levels as it suits him. That's why a scream can bloody Thanos but not namor.
Or a celestial can tank attacks from IG but not from galactus.
Let's not go overboard here. Bendis.
And none of your examples work either.
Namor was still wrecked by the scream. And like 4 Celestials got killed by one IG shot.
It's just like Hickman really wanted to make Namor seem dead and then he went back and wrote the next issue a while later. Or scream was mixed with whisper somewhere along the line. Still though it happened. Wouldn't happen again.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:28 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Well then again he wasn't trying to kill Namor. Remember Panther wanted him coherent enough so that he knows what just happened to him. While the Thanos one we know for damn sure Bolt was trying to end him right then and there.
I don't see how that can be taken into account. If bolt didn't want to kill namor, why did he scream at all? If it was to throw him off the ship, it would've done by a whisper too.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:30 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't see how that can be taken into account. If bolt didn't want to kill namor, why did he scream at all? If it was to throw him off the ship, it would've done by a whisper too.
I guess you didn't read the comic.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:35 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Let's not go overboard here. Bendis.
And none of your examples work either.
Namor was still wrecked by the scream. And like 4 Celestials got killed by one IG shot.
It's just like Hickman really wanted to make Namor seem dead and then he went back and wrote the next issue a while later. Or scream was mixed with whisper somewhere along the line. Still though it happened. Wouldn't happen again.
Yeah, comparison to bendis is a little too much. But still.
Didn't mad celestials took blasts from UN and IG?
And namor was at best koed for a few moments. It was again showed as a scream in the next issue though.
Http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/221...41-015.jpg.html
So I don't see how he forgot it.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess you didn't read the comic.
Don't patronize me celey.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Black bolt screamed in his face. He was stunned for a few moments.
Oh, that.
I thought Bran was referring to the planet blowing up and was going to point out that Namor didn't actually take the full impact.
Feb 28th, 2015 04:44 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, comparison to bendis is a little too much. But still.
Didn't mad celestials took blasts from UN and IG?
And namor was at best koed for a few moments. It was again showed as a scream in the next issue though.
Http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/221...41-015.jpg.html
So I don't see how he forgot it. UN, not IG.
Still a fight ender. Though contradictory sure. But you're essentially making the case that him only being KO'ed lowers or highers ones powers. If he gets KO'ed by two varying attacks, should he be ko'ed MORE by the more powerful ones in comics? Death is a viable question but then again you can't exactly have Namor get killed by any such attack when he has a lot of shit to ruin in the future.
So yeah. It didn't make sense, but it's really the best that can happen outside whispers I guess. Still think something got mixed along the way though. Oh well. The way to solve this is to have each Namor and BB beat the shit out of Hulk somewhere down the line... naturally.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't patronize me celey.
No. I was serious when I said you didn't read the comic because not one person who read it would agree to what you said. Bolt did not try to kill Namor. It was all calculated by Panther. Bolt's attack was to incapacitate Namor long enough so that he would realize who planned it all and not be able to recover in time for the coup de grace.
Not all quasi-sonic attacks from Bolt are the same level.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:48 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
UN, not IG.
Still a fight ender. Though contradictory sure. But you're essentially making the case that him only being KO'ed lowers or highers ones powers. If he gets KO'ed by two varying attacks, should he be ko'ed MORE by the more powerful ones in comics? Death is a viable question but then again you can't exactly have Namor get killed by any such attack when he has a lot of shit to ruin in the future.
So yeah. It didn't make sense, but it's really the best that can happen outside whispers I guess. Still think something got mixed along the way though. Oh well. The way to solve this is to have each Namor and BB beat the shit out of Hulk somewhere down the line... naturally.
At, OK.
But it's incredibly contradicting that Namor was koed for only the moments Cabal took to approach him from maybe 100 feet.
It's always OK for someone to beat the shit out of Hulk, I agree with that.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No. I was serious when I said you didn't read the comic because not one person who read it would agree to what you said. Bolt did not try to kill Namor. It was all calculated by Panther. Bolt's attack was to incapacitate Namor long enough so that he would realize who planned it all and not be able to recover in time for the coup de grace.
Not all quasi-sonic attacks from Bolt are the same level.
While varying scream levels is an actual thing, any scream is still more than the whisper needed to take Namor out. I think the overkill factor to only shortly put Namor out is the biggest issue here. Everyone even me is attuned to the hardest hit causing coma level ko's in comics.
You'd have to actually use real world logic to make sense of that, in that not every hit causes a coma KO even the hardest one. Seconds most of the time. Life worrying if it's minutes. Speaking of the real world, comics need seizure kos.
Still though. High as **** showing for Namor. I wonder how Hickman would write Glads vs Namor. Carver ending I'd hope.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:54 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No. I was serious when I said you didn't read the comic because not one person who read it would agree to what you said. Bolt did not try to kill Namor. It was all calculated by Panther. Bolt's attack was to incapacitate Namor long enough so that he would realize who planned it all and not be able to recover in time for the coup de grace.
Not all quasi-sonic attacks from Bolt are the same level.
Like I said. quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't patronize me celey.
That's just one interpretation of the scene and nowhere was it stated that Bolt was holding back. Him screaming and holding back are contradictory by nature. And I never said they are of the same level.
So stop patronizing already.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:55 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
While varying scream levels is an actual thing, any scream is still more than the whisper needed to take Namor out. I think the overkill factor to only shortly put Namor out is the biggest issue here. Everyone even me is attuned to the hardest hit causing coma level ko's in comics.
You'd have to actually use real world logic to make sense of that, in that not every hit causes a coma KO even the hardest one. Seconds most of the time. Life worrying if it's minutes. Speaking of the real world, comics need seizure kos.
Still though. High as **** showing for Namor. I wonder how Hickman would write Glads vs Namor. Carver ending I'd hope.
Hickman is writing Namor vs Gladiator?
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:56 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Hickman is writing Namor vs Gladiator?
No but I hope he does. He seems to have a hard on for Namor and BB. If it were to happen it'd be a good one even though Hickman sucks at writing drawn out fights.
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Feb 28th, 2015 04:58 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
No but I hope he does. He seems to have a hard on for Namor and BB. If it were to happen it'd be a good one even though Hickman sucks at writing drawn out fights.
Namor would beat the shit out of Kallark in such a fight.
Hickman has a very high opinion of Namor.
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Feb 28th, 2015 05:01 AM
celeyhyga17
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Branlor Swift
While varying scream levels is an actual thing, any scream is still more than the whisper needed to take Namor out. I think the overkill factor to only shortly put Namor out is the biggest issue here. Everyone even me is attuned to the hardest hit causing coma level ko's in comics.
You'd have to actually use real world logic to make sense of that, in that not every hit causes a coma KO even the hardest one. Seconds most of the time. Life worrying if it's minutes. Speaking of the real world, comics need seizure kos.
Still though. High as **** showing for Namor. I wonder how Hickman would write Glads vs Namor. Carver ending I'd hope.
I agree about the overkill factor and it was a great feat for fishbreath. I just took the weight of the context much more than the graphic portrayal.
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Feb 28th, 2015 05:01 AM
celeyhyga17
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Like I said.
That's just one interpretation of the scene and nowhere was it stated that Bolt was holding back. Him screaming and holding back are contradictory by nature. And I never said they are of the same level.
So stop patronizing already.
Well we do know he wasn't trying to kill him. He reserved that right to T'Challa.
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Feb 28th, 2015 05:05 AM
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