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Vitiate runs a gauntlet
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Stigma
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Although I don't see LeGenD's post, I have a feeeling he believes he dictates who can post in what thread. LOL



Regardless, I am deeply interested how this debate turns out.

Ziost!Vitiate is undeniably top 3 Force users. Can he beat Luke and Sidious? I have my doubts much like SunRazer who so eloquently explained his stance thus far.

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Exar Kun amulet banishes him.


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S_W_LeGenD
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Exar Kun amulet banishes him.

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NewGuy01
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Re: Vitiate runs a gauntlet

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate's formless (Rise of the Emperor) incarnation is assumed.


Then frankly without a host, there's only so much he can do to these guys that are powerful enough to resist his possession. That being said, he's also all but immune to standard forms of attack.

This gauntlet is basically pointless because Vitiate needs prep to destroy his enemies, and they need prep to be able to destroy him. Maybe Luke or Yoda could WOL him, but who knows?

Assuming physical incarnation, he loses to 5 and 6.

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He's referring to what Exar Kun did to Freedon Nadd's ghost lol.

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Kun's gauntlet can kill spirits or something.


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Trocity
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Originally posted by Stigma
I don't see LeGenD's post but I have a feeling he spews out something that most of us would like to say to him... amirite? wink


He's such a goof. He said take your bullshit and go troll elsewhere when you said he dies to Luke, Sidious and possibly Yoda.


He made this gauntlet, included an FYI at the end about Vitiate not being able to be killed by conventional, and then bitched and moaned when posters say he won't clear.

"What will Luke do, make a wish? derp derp?"

Such a f***ing biased clown LMFAO.


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Legend Wall of Light and Force light are not conventional methods, they are special and rarely used powers designed not only to counter the dark side, but eradicate dark side entities. Its worked twice against the spirit Exar Kun, against the dark side energies of Ambria and against Sith illusions made from dark side energy. Give me one could reason why it won't work against Vitiate.

Spirit!Vitiate could stop Vader, Kun or Caedus. But with these powers Yoda or Luke will beat him.

Also if your not prepared to entertain the idea Vitiate can't clear, then this is a spite/troll thread plain and simple.

EDIT: Also DE Sidious can channel spirits, so he could defeat Vitiate by draining his power.


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Trocity
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This incarnation of Vitiate is stated to possess immeasurable power:

Enduring and merciless and quite possibly unkillable, Monoliths plainly illustrate the immeasurable power of their creator and are best avoided at all costs.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor)



To use your own logic against you, Revenge of the Sith Sidious have already elevated himself to a level that is above even spirit Vitiate.

And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.

Source: Revenge of the Sith


Beyond Power > Immeasurable Power

Does Vitiate have any quote that surpasses this revelation? Otherwise, take your fanon nonsense elsewhere.


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To use your own logic against you, Revenge of the Sith Sidious have already elevated himself to a level that is above even spirit Vitiate.

And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.

Source: Revenge of the Sith


Beyond Power > Immeasurable Power

Does Vitiate have any quote that surpasses this revelation? Otherwise, take your fanon nonsense elsewhere.
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The lore absolutely makes it clear that lightsabers, other weapons, and Force powers cannot stop formless Vitiate. PERIOD.

Then why make a thread on him battling other people?


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Luke I'd say would win his battle. Palpatine having knowledge of Sith teachings and knowledge of vitiate probable I'd say he has a good shot, yoda with his knowledge of the force and deep concentration and understanding with the force. Also he transcendsthe physical plain he can beat vitiate IMO. (Becoming a force spirit)


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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by Nephthys
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Kun's gauntlet can kill spirits or something.

Interesting.

Thanks for sharing this information.

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He's such a goof. He said take your bullshit and go troll elsewhere when you said he dies to Luke, Sidious and possibly Yoda.


He made this gauntlet, included an FYI at the end about Vitiate not being able to be killed by conventional, and then bitched and moaned when posters say he won't clear.

"What will Luke do, make a wish? derp derp?"

Such a f***ing biased clown LMFAO.

So much hostility... alien

My arguments are based on factual information and observations. My bias have nothing to do with this.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Legend Wall of Light and Force light are not conventional methods, they are special and rarely used powers designed not only to counter the dark side, but eradicate dark side entities. Its worked twice against the spirit Exar Kun, against the dark side energies of Ambria and against Sith illusions made from dark side energy. Give me one could reason why it won't work against Vitiate.

These Force powers are impressive but it is unclear if BioWare considers them 'conventional' or not. We don't know how Vitiate was stopped.

The Jedi Order likely had knowledge of these techniques but their effectiveness against Vitiate is unclear. It is possible that some Jedi attempted to use these powers against Vitiate on planet Ziost and they didn't work.

Vitiate's immense power and defensive capabilities are not likely to be overwhelmed easily.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Spirit!Vitiate could stop Vader, Kun or Caedus. But with these powers Yoda or Luke will beat him.

Covered above.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Also if your not prepared to entertain the idea Vitiate can't clear, then this is a spite/troll thread plain and simple.

I have created this thread for a reason that I may reveal later on.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
EDIT: Also DE Sidious can channel spirits, so he could defeat Vitiate by draining his power.

I am not getting this point. Kindly elaborate.

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To use your own logic against you, Revenge of the Sith Sidious have already elevated himself to a level that is above even spirit Vitiate.

And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.

Source: Revenge of the Sith


Beyond Power > Immeasurable Power

Does Vitiate have any quote that surpasses this revelation? Otherwise, take your fanon nonsense elsewhere.

Vitiate is stated to have immeasurable power in the sense that he created beings of Dark Side which were all but invincible and was able to perform actions that required thousands of Force-users otherwise. This is the intended point.

As for the quote you cited, it is pure hyperbole. Nothing to back it up with.

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Then why make a thread on him battling other people?


Their is a point to make.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Luke I'd say would win his battle.

How?

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Palpatine having knowledge of Sith teachings and knowledge of vitiate probable I'd say he has a good shot,

Even Palpatine's greatest Force power is useless in this contest.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
yoda with his knowledge of the force and deep concentration and understanding with the force. Also he transcendsthe physical plain he can beat vitiate IMO. (Becoming a force spirit)

Yoda will beat Vitiate as a spirit? Thanks for the laugh.

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Stigma
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He's such a goof. He said take your bullshit and go troll elsewhere when you said he dies to Luke, Sidious and possibly Yoda.


He made this gauntlet, included an FYI at the end about Vitiate not being able to be killed by conventional, and then bitched and moaned when posters say he won't clear.

"What will Luke do, make a wish? derp derp?"

Such a f***ing biased clown LMFAO.

Ah... so nothing new. Same old goofy LeGenD. thumb up

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Trocity
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So there is no quote in existence for Vitiate that elevates him Beyond Power?

Thanks. I accept your concession.


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Stigma
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LOL LeGenD got demolished.



@ LeGenD, FYI:

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These Force powers are impressive but it is unclear if BioWare considers them 'conventional' or not. We don't know how Vitiate was stopped.
The fact that it should logically be effective proves that it is. You can fall back on ambiguity to support your claim Vitiate clears.
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It is possible that some Jedi attempted to use these powers against Vitiate on planet Ziost and they didn't work.
Now your just baselessly speculating, unless of course you have prove this.
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I have created this thread for a reason that I may reveal later on.
Best reveal it now before you lose what little credibility you have left.
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Such a f***ing biased clown LMFAO.
Oops, too late.
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I am not getting this point. Kindly elaborate.
He can channel the power of spirits i.e. drain them.
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Vitiate is stated to have immeasurable power in the sense that he created beings of Dark Side which were all but invincible and was able to perform actions that required thousands of Force-users otherwise. This is the intended point.
If Vitiate's power is immeasurable i.e. limitless, then why hasn't he consumed the galaxy yet?

And how is it his pawns were stopped by the protags?


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Trocity
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Well said on all accounts. It's a shame he'll find some way to deflect all of your points with vague speculations of his own creation.

You and others have destroyed him countless times, it's honestly mystifying that he keeps this up.


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Well as the saying goes:

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Luke could probably also Mind Walk to destroy Vitiate's spirit if needed.


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Vitiate's spirit was untouchable for loosers like HoT or GM Shan. Against a true masters of the Force like Yoda or Sidous or Plagueis he would be doomed.

He dies at Yoda.

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