Ahh...well yeah there's that. Which is what as Tempest said, the writers going in the opposite direction of what they said before.
I like Rebels don't get me wrong, I hope the mid-season is fantastic...it's just...it's kinda hard to believe the Rebellion had so much trouble when the Empire just doesn't fit what the OT showed them as.
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Oh, Kallus is full on cartoon villain. But then, I don't think the writers ever said they were going to make him otherwise. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they really only said that about Inqy (and Vader).
The empire obviously became complacent due to the weakness of those who opposed it. Palpatine scoffed at the mere notion that they posed a legitimate threat to his empire. This is something not new to human nature in general. This many years in power made them weaker IMO and less sharp. Palpatine took no chances with the Jedi and attacked them as shrewdly and without mercy ASAP. He didn't have the same ruthlessness to the rebels.
You think the CIS was more formidable in TCW? Frankly, I'd completely disagree. Even with Dooku at the forefront I never found them threatening. And I'm unsure why you don't consider the Inquisitor a challenging bad guy when he spanked Kanan and Co.
The Inquisitor was challenging sure, but it takes more than just mere individuals to make an Empire threatening.
I'm probably too deeply rooted in the old Legends where every single part of the GE was effective. From the ground troops, to the pilots, to the officers all the way up to the SpecForce and Force Wielders.
I hope this new EU does the same, I really do. But Rebels, I don't feel that much, the individuals sure but as a whole no. But I get it, it's a show aimed at kids so I can give some leeway to it.
I'm thinking of random examples: the Malevolence decimating fleets in season 1, the commando droids wreaking havoc regularly, droids laying waste to the Republic garrison on Scipio, Grievous's invasion of Kamino, droids boarding the Republic shuttle spiriting away Fives and gunning down the opposition, Mar Tuuk defeating Anakin in the invasion of Ryloth, etc.
Plenty of badass moments from the Separatists where they defeat or challenge a far greater enemy than the Empire is up against.
That it's a full scale war? The only threatening thing from the basic troops of the CIS is there sheer numbers something we know the Empire has as well. Regardless, neither the CIS or the Empire seem to have truly formidable troops.
Of course he has. But you claimed that you want more threatening figures from the Empire besides the top dogs. So I brought up the Grand Inquisitor because he is a villain created by the show that served as a "challenging bad guy" for the Rebels. And he is every bit as challenging for the Rebels as Dooku was for TCW crew.
Yeah but you mentioned Dooku, so I thought you were comparing him to the Inquisitor. He'd eat Inky alive.
Nah, the commando droids, droidekas, and even super battle droids outperform stormtroopers. Go back and watch the first episode of the Order 66 arc: specifically where the super battle droids attack the fleeing Republic shuttle carrying Fives.
And the Empire deploys their far greater numbers against the Rebels all the time. The Seps still do it better, honestly.
Like I said: more exposure also affords more opportunity to screw up.
That episode pit droids designed to be made cheaply and in mass numbers against the most powerful Jedi ever. Stormtroopers are still advertised as elite shock troops and can't manage no-name Jedi wannabes and a Mandalorian hipster.
But you said the CIS lacks formidable troops. They don't. Commando droids, super battle droids, and droidekas are all standard infantry to some extent. They're not the equivalent of even an Jnquisitor. And stormtroopers are still advertised as elite shock troops.