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Kun says he blinded them, not froze them. So it wasn't that spell. It's clear that he did it with mind-fogging aka telepathy.
Yet he also says they watched him land without batting an eye, so I'd question whether he was being literal.

Regardless, the spell (Qâzoi Kyantuska which essentially means "suppress thought") is just a mind control power that puts you in a trance.


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He wasn't, he was replying to the questions the staff member asked him. In the audio he actually has a genuinely pitiful tone to his voice.


That doesn't change my point at all, lol.

Indeed, even if he weren't actively lying, he doesn't need to be so precise with his language that we should take the specifics of whether he said "blinded" over what actually makes sense when you think about it.


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The feat is alive and well, and there is nothing anybody can do about that.
Looks like AP has entered into the 1st stage of grief, denial.


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What's more likely, that Exar Kun TP'd a select dozen to land with no troubles or that he TP'd millions/billions of people so they don't do shit when a single ship enters the atmosphere?


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Given that it was every technician in Cinnegar, that would probably infer the latter. But for the former to work, he'd still have to scan the minds of every single individual in the work-force, so he can deferentiate between which jobs they do to find that select dozen. He'd also have to know which technicians were monitering what parts of the Planet at the exact moment he landed. So it probably is better to 'blind' all of them. Also, for another feat, I'm pretty sure he used his Force blasts to destroy the docking station. Which would be another awesome feat of power.


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Post it, give us another quote to tear apart. smile


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Well, you'd have to start tearing apart this one for their to be another. And I very much doubt you'd be tearing apart anything, given that simple word definitions are beyond your grasp.


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Well, you'd have to start tearing apart this one for their to be another. And I very much doubt you'd be tearing apart anything, given that simple word definitions are beyond your grasp.
Dry those tears Ziggy, this one's already dead. And no amount of bus conductors is bringing it back. thumb up


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IT IS DEAD - I DON"T LIKE !!! STOP TAKING ABOUT THE FEAT IT"S DEAD




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Nah by all means continue, it's amusing to watch you struggle.


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Probably his most impressive feat


Looks like Beni is the first stage of greif, denial:

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Face it the other quote has been murdered, this one's next. smile


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The Kunts can't catch a break.


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Looks like AP has entered into the 1st stage of grief, denial.


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Post it, give us another quote to tear apart. smile



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Dry those tears Ziggy, this one's already dead. And no amount of bus conductors is bringing it back. thumb up


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Yet he also says they watched him land without batting an eye, so I'd question whether he was being literal.

Regardless, the spell (Qâzoi Kyantuska which essentially means "suppress thought") is just a mind control power that puts you in a trance.


Jesus man, this isn't a hard concept to grasp. Kun says that he blinds them because he made it so that they don't register his actions. Despite them all watching him land and destroy the docking bay, he's made it so that they don't register his actions and react. The senators were forced to watch, and tellingly listen to Exar Kun's speech about how shit they are. They were not blinded by the darkside as the technicians were. They were aware of what was happening.

Any confirmation that that is the spell Kun used?

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That doesn't change my point at all, lol.

Indeed, even if he weren't actively lying, he doesn't need to be so precise with his language that we should take the specifics of whether he said "blinded" over what actually makes sense when you think about it.


It exactly answers your question. erm

Yes, you know what Kun did better than he does. Clearly, since you were there after all and know better than the guy who did the feat.

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What's more likely, that Exar Kun TP'd a select dozen to land with no troubles or that he TP'd millions/billions of people so they don't do shit when a single ship enters the atmosphere?


The more likely thing is that it happened as is stated and the writer isn't being coy and thinking about whether or not Kun wants to impress a random guard or the specifics of how Kun did it.


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It's also worth noting that the characters narrate the story throughout the audio tape. There are some sound effects, but no omniscient narrator telling us what's happening. So Kun really has no reason to lie.


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There were doubts that he couldn't anyway?


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Btw, thanks to Neph for conceding Palpatine's ability to destroy his palace. thumb up


You'll have to explain that to me. I'm pretty sure thinking about doing something isn't the same as actually having done something and then talking about it.


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Jesus man, this isn't a hard concept to grasp. Kun says that he blinds them because he made it so that they don't register his actions. Despite them all watching him land and destroy the docking bay, he's made it so that they don't register his actions and react. The senators were forced to watch, and tellingly listen to Exar Kun's speech about how shit they are. They were not blinded by the darkside as the technicians were. They were aware of what was happening.

Any confirmation that that is the spell Kun used?
That's my point, that they weren't literally blinded, merely failed to respond to what they were seeing. With the similar description of the senators as "forced to watch but not react" suggests more than just paralysis, but mind control.

And its just an inference really, the spell is mentioned in the Book of Sith as a mind-addling power spell supplants the thoughts of the victim with one's own. Or as Daniel Wallace described it in his endnotes "basically mind control, and therefore shows up in a lot of places. Essentially it's the "Jedi Mind Trick" but with a more dominating, sinister bent."

Most of the spells are sourced from TotJ so Kun mind controlling the Senate, and mind-controlling these technicians, seem the most likely candidates.

On top of that we've also got Aleema Keto using Sith magic to mind control scores of Krath chaos fighters, and Cartariun who raised army of semi-sentient creatures using the energies of a Sith Temple.


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It exactly answers your question. erm

Yes, you know what Kun did better than he does. Clearly, since you were there after all and know better than the guy who did the feat.


Nice question begging, since the entire dispute is whether Exar a) is being truthful and b) cares about parsing his words exactly, not whether he himself knows what's going on. You say that he has no reason to lie since the guy is going to die - which is funny because he already has no reason to talk to him in the first place, but he is - it turns out that people sometimes do things for the f*ck of it, no less a dark lord. Our point, given this, is that it's more reliable to look at what makes more sense than to do a semantics analysis of his dialogue. And we can see that it makes absolutely no sense for every technician on the planet to be watching the arrival of a single ship, so blinding every one of them is entirely pointless. More realistically, he did it to those within a few kilometer, maybe few dozen kilometer square radius, .i.e. hundreds of technicians, an impressive but hardly top-tier feat.


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Yeah there is such a thing as hyperbole, not quite the same as lying.


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