Collateral of the Maelstrom, sure, but not the Lightning.
Anyway, not seeing anything Maladi has beyond Atris in any department - the latter should win resoundingly. Combat skill? Literally the only thing we have for her regarding a blade is a proposed off-panel clash with Shado Vao, even though she's clearly more of a Mage and the fight was more likely to be based on her using Lightning than clashing blades (much, at least). Atris being more skilled than Kavar, mastering Juyo and stalemating Brianna, who B-team'd the other Handmaidens, is better.
Knowledge? Maladi's ambiguously studied holocrons and forbidden knowledge. In addition to whatever she gleamed as the Head Archivist of the Order, Atris has studied dozens of ancient Sith holocrons which she claims give her access to ancient teachings of combat and the Force. Maladi hasn't shown any potentially combat-useful powers besides the usual TK and Lightning. Atris has Drain, Stasis, etc. She's ahead here as well.
Telekinesis? Atris effortlessly closing huge doors that can't be burnt through by a plasma torch, ragdolling Brianna, and throwing Brianna (albeit a defenseless one) across a room matches Maladi using effort to TK a Cade who seemed to be caught off-guard. Seems about even here - there won't be a meaningful edge either way.
Lightning? Maladi torturing some helpless people and Atris bringing an unarmed Brianna to her knees - about equal, again. Maladi did create a pretty big Storm alongside Krayt, but Krayt almost certainly did the vast majority of the work there, and Atris can fire Lightning Storms as well. Doubt there's much of a difference here, either.
Healing? Maladi appears to be skilled in the art, and can put others into a Meditation Trance. Which is nice, but not even remotely useful in combat. Atris healed herself from critical injury (potentially by a lightsaber, too) in just a matter of moments alone. Now, she was out of combat there as well, but the short time suggests that she could make some of use of Healing mid-duel - probably more effectively than Maladi, as well.
Well, they're open when Brianna comes back to fight the Handmaidens for the entire fight, even though there's nobody near them. It's not an automatically opening or closing door. In fact, if you go up to them and click on them, it says that they can't be opened by conventional means.
Shado was cutting down siths when was only a padawan and fodderising them in his prime. He was an unmatched duelist at the start of the series. He held his own against Talon in sabers, and he was better than Wolf who stalemated Stryfe to death in a sith temple.
Shado > Atris.
There's nothing ambiguous about it lol. Maladi's knowledge rivals/exceeds Krayt's.
Maybe, but Maladi was the top healer of an entire Sith Order. I wouldn't write that down.
Also you skipped the part where Maladi semi-successfully mind ****ed Cade who roughly a year prior casually resisted Karness Muur
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Your initial line acts like your comment was a genuine argument. Here was me having enough faith that you were joking.
Knowledge of ancient species is ****ing irrelevant, Wyyrlok was already stated as having far more knowledge of Dark Side Techniques than her, something that you know, is actually relevant to a fight. Same with Krayt, he unlocked the holocrons of Darths Andeddu, Nihilus and Bane, some of the most infamous and teaching rich holocrons of the Sith.
Given that Wyyrlok could only uncover one of those after Krayt's death, it's pretty obvious Maladi, who'd have far more restricted access, also never got a chance to study them.
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Talon above Nihl? Or Atris matches up better against him somehow? I confess I don't see any advantage Talon has over Nihl above except she's maybe more acrobatic.
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I haven't read Legacy in over a year, but I was under the impression he forced the holocrons open quite early in the series.
Edit: I always interpreted the "I take what I desire" line and the disappearance of them to suggest he'd overpowered them, but I see your point. Still, the point stands, Maladi's knowledge of combat applicable powers is shockingly pale in comparison to Krayt's.
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It's not knowledge of ancient species, it's knowledge of sith alchemy lol. Which falls under knowledge of the dark side.
Wyyrlok was never stated to have far more knowledge than Maladi, simply that he's knowledge is unparalleled. Which ironically includes Krayt too.
Also Krayt's knowledge was never been stated to be better than Maladi's iirc. If you have a quote by all means show it.
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And please tell me how knowledge of alchemy is in any way relevant to the combat knowledge that Nova was talking about.
So just to get this straight, you're suggesting the Rakghoul thing is proof of Krayt's spymaster having more knowledge of the combat applicable arts of the Dark Side than him?
I mean I'd argue she's not even more knowledgable about Combat than Talon and Nihl, let alone Krayt.
Alchemy means literally nothing in an engagement like this, and wasn't what Nova was talking about at all
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Except that wasn't my argument at all. I said she studied all the holocrons including the forbidden ones. Then you threw your tantrum about Wyyrlok and Krayt hur dur, for which I replied with a documented case where Maladi's knowledge exceeds Krayt's.
Nice try to, now you can go back to retirement.
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