I'm not the one who first brought up the thread. And Dragon Ball fandom is full of so much misinformation like fan power levels, it's laughable to accuse others of one or two false statements from creators in another language, making it hard to verify.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Pretty much everything he says, I picture in the voice of Comic Book Guy.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Nobody who's serious in debating dbz uses power levels and knows power levels van be used to downplay the series.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Since everybody is avoiding saitama, I say he wins if beerus doesn't destroy the planet. Saitama is more durable than beerus. Remember when saitama let borus (who can also beat beerus) trap him inside that large inceneration beam (look at the environment, it was MELTING METAL) and saitama nothing but take the attacks from borus and the BEAM(he has no hope). Beerus doesn't have an attack on that level. Can he vaporize megaton? NO. Remember when trunks sword defended zamasus energy blade? It means there not producing enough heat. If he did, he would have used it against ssj God goku to test the strength of ssj God goku (who can't survive THAT much HEAT). So saitama will just punch or kick the energy blast beerus throws at him if hes not aiming at the planet with intent to destroy it. (Not saitama but the planet alone) How can he survive an attack from saitama? Saitama is physically more powerful since he survived GETTING HIT TO THE(THE) MOON. What has beerus done besides cause large shockwaves? Nothing on BORUS level. He produced a whole different kind of energy in mid air that's above current of air shaking the earth. He can create electricity which is only produce by forces of greater impacts by a shockwave. Saitama can duplicate borus in strength plus a LOT more. Saitama deflected a PLANET destroying blast at full power of his strength because he can't SENSE power levels like beerus can. So when borus said he's going to destroy the planet the situation became critical for saitama to defend the earth. So he considers anything that can destroy the planet to be LIFE THREATNING. That means NO holding back when all MANKIND is at stake. What about beerus MOVEMENT speed? Saitama is WAY faster than sound speed (Sonic is slow ass hell compared to saitama) which beerus hasn't come close at demonstrating. So saitama will speed biltz him since he's way faster than any of beerus attacks. Can beerus out run his own energy blast? NO. Saitama wins only if beerus doesn't destroy the planet!