I liked TFA more. I totally understand why some people hate it because of its lack of originality, but honestly, I don't really care about that. I thought it was a very fun movie that entertained me throughout, I liked most of the characters, and it just settled with me better. Plus, it just felt like true Star Wars.
That's not to say Rogue One didn't entertain me, or that I didn't like most of the characters, etc. -- but comparatively, it just didn't really stack up.
Yeah, despite the lack of originality I still feel TFA had a better acted, more entertaining and more depth filled cast, hit more emotional highs and had a solidly engaging story arc throughout; whereas the first act of Rogue One was, to put it bluntly, kinda dull, the dialogue was a little clunky in some places, the characters less developed and the humour simply wasn't quite as well pulled off. It was still a great movie but TFA simply the better produced product, as you'd expect.
The Force Awakens wins it for me, they're also difficult to compare since that both movies have a different purpose. Rogue One was this story they could put forward which needed to explain events and they already much of the setting through A New Hope (and by extent the Sequel Trilogy). The Force Awakens on the other hand needed to set up a (almost) completely new story which could be interesting and complex enough to make a trilogy out of it while also setting up characters that have more depth than the counterparts in R1.
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And they failed miserably. The story is a blatant ripoff of ANH and the characters suck. Kylo is daddy issues #237856t18725, and Rey is the worst shit that happened to Star Wars. Yeah, worse than Jar Jar.
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Honestly, while I found the lack of originality of TFA disappointing, I did legitimately enjoy TFA.
That being said, Rogue One does rank higher for me. Between it's plot originality, it's more fast paced nature, and the fact that I'm actually set up to be emotionally invested in the Rebels (unlike the new Republic, where the only reason I gave a shit about the destruction of the Hosnian system was Harrison Ford's sad face and John William's sad music), it was just more exciting for me to watch, not to mention it feels more like a war with the grittier combat scenes, and HOLY SHIT the space battle.
I also enjoyed how Rogue One was less morally black and white with even some of the good guys making hard calls and doing morally dubious things, whereas the most morally dubious shit in TFA from a good guy was "should I help out or run away from the fight."
I also preferred the villains of Rogue One, don't get me wrong, I actually enjoyed Kylo Ren as a character, and thought Hux's passion driven extremist speech was a good choice for the character, but we know next to nothing about Snoke, Phasma was absolute shit, and Hux was relatively undeveloped, whereas Rogue One did an excellent job portraying the Empire and Krennic and Tarkin. Not to mention that the rivalry between Krennic and Tarkin was actually something real with conflict over who gets credit for the Death Star, threats, passive aggressive compliments, and Tarkin knowingly ordering Krennic's death at the end, which definitely trumps the nasty looks Kylo and Hux shot each other during their conversations with Snoke. And again, even though I actually like Kylo and his character development... he just can't compare with the OG. Sure Vader wasn't in Rogue One that much, but both of his scenes were perfect.
And lastly, Rogue One just does a better job building off of the lore. It expands upon the origins of the Death Star, the Rebel alliance, the Empire, Darth Vader, the retrieval of the Death Star plans, does a lot of world building, and just ties up a lot of loose ends and connects and fits into the existing canon lore almost perfectly (aside from the Leia/Vader convo which is a little shaky). TFA on the other hand, while it does do some world building and sets up for a new trilogy, it honestly doesn't do the best job building off of what before it, instead of building off of a Galaxy freed from tyranny, it's resetting the plot to the ANH Empire/First Order vs Rebels/Resistance oppressor underdog dynamic, with the most building off of the ROTJ victory being the New Republic, which we got to spend zero time with before its destruction. On top of this, again while I enjoyed the movie, Luke running away makes zero sense given the way ROTJ set up his character arc.
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