Lmao, how is it a vague quote? If you can dispose of someone with a flick of a wrist anytime, anywhere then he's not a threat. The quote is from Dooku's prespective who refuses to give any credit to anyone beside himself and Sidious. So yeah it's pretty legit.
And I don't care about the Katarn quote (especially not without context) because the NJO is less consistant than Hillary's presidential campaign. If you want to bring shit tier NJO quotes into this then Ben > DE Sidious.
No
Quote says otherwise. Besides if you want to roll with Kenobi not expecting it that still leaves the feat as an opportune ragdoll not total domination, as Joker said.
Glad you agree.
The film suggest nothing, without an explanation a screenplay can't distinguish an opportune ragdoll vs overpowering ragdoll (unless someone chokes another person for a prolonged period, which doesn't happen here).
Quote for the script?
Being formidable is no proof he overpowered his defenses instead of taking the opportunity
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he had anakin's help, and the blast wasn't aimed solely at them. But its interesting that both are pushed the same distance(it sstill a vastly pre prime anakin though)
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Watching it again makes me inclined to believe they both defended themselves from the attack using Canon's version of Force barrier. What you're suggesting seems like a Force bubble, which I haven't seen used in The Clone Wars and wouldn't make sense because there are aliens right behind Kenobi and Skywalker that were affected.
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Yes they both defended themselves vs the attack with atheir own barriers, but the attack was split between the two of them. Neither were taking the full power of the attack.
You're referring to the novel? What's the quote in question? I Ctrl+F'd "threat" on my PDF version and didn't find anything. I am aware of a sourcebook claiming that Obi-Wan was a threat.
There wasn't any context. It was just Katarn's better than the other three and he's a threat.
"Too sudden" does not necessarily mean speed. What was Joker's actual argument in that other thread? He's just trolling in this one.
Well, the movie has Dooku and Obi-Wan clashing blades, and then the Choke, as opposed to Dooku turning around and just Choking Obi-Wan before he could even get to him in the junior novel.
If Obi-Wan is still surprised by a Force attack right after he's clashing blades with Dooku, then frankly, we should start arguing that characters can ragdoll Obi-Wan on the basis of speed as opposed to power.
Although I'm not seeing how Dooku's ragdoll was different from most other ragdolls, anyway. Obi-Wan trying to counter the technique might be him trying to use the anti-Choke technique (the one that Ant brought up a few months ago) as opposed to his Force defenses being lowered for no reason. So as far as actually ragdolling on the basis of bypassing somebody's Force defenses go, then Dooku's doing just that.
It's just this:
There's no mention of surprise, at least. You can say it's ambiguous, but then there's always Occam's Razor.
Well, if you want to play the definition game like you always do, there's a definition for formidable relating to being "impressively powerful".
Yes he was so exhausted, not like drawing off love and rage could have restored him to peak levels when it already happened earlier in the novel under conditions less likely to provide that emotion boost and after thirteen days of torture. But continue to live in fantasy world I guess.
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