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Can Nomi Sunrider Force Sever the Sith Emperor?
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Selenial
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
^^^
laughing out loud

https://www.testden.com/toeic/gramm...ssary-words.htm


****ing lmao LeGenD is lecturing people on grammar.

This is a joke, right?


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****ing lmao LeGenD is lecturing people on grammar.

This is a joke, right?

"I have become more powerful than any Jedi Sith. Even you."

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Revan: confirmed as the Jedi Order's most powerful champion in the novel. His command of the Force outstrip's that of Darth Nihilus as well.
-S_W_LeGenD


Caaaaaause he uses HUNGER POWER, not FORCE POWER. So of course Revan would have greater control of FORCE POWER. :P

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His control of the Force being > Nihilus doesn't mean he himself possesses more power than Nihilus.
-MythLord


True, Revan is not described in terms that Nihilus is. "Power that cannot be put into words", "so powerful only planets and stars demand his attention", so powerful the entire strike team (Meetra included) were "as insignificant as dust motes in a storm" - "as dead bodies orbiting Malachor V", and per the programmer notes from the game files Meetra upon running into Nihilus is supposed to "realize Nihilus is FAR more powerful" than she has been led to believe up to that point. So take those accolades and realize the programmers wanted you to realize that's actually underselling his true measure of power. He's MORE powerful than that.

Revan is powerful in Force Power.

Nihilus is powerful in Hunger Power.

Hunger Power > Force Power

So really this doesn't lower Revan or Nihilus in regard to their power level. It's like comparing apples to oranges really.

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But no. She can't.

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Nihilus is a Force User; there's no such thing as Hunger Power. People need to stop making sh!t up and sticking imaginary terms to Nihilus.

Regardless, the quote is only about command/control of the Force, his power in the Force is certainly inferior to Nihilus' as has been established in KoTOR II.


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Originally posted by MythLord
Nihilus is a Force User; there's no such thing as Hunger Power. People need to stop making sh!t up and sticking imaginary terms to Nihilus.

Regardless, the quote is only about command/control of the Force, his power in the Force is certainly inferior to Nihilus' as has been established in KoTOR II.


Interesting, since he used the power of his hunger to bind himself into his gear. Not his Force Power, not his Ki, not his Voodoo Magic, but the power of his hunger.

It must be tangible to be able to be used as a power source during a feat.

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Originally posted by MythLord
Nihilus is a Force User; there's no such thing as Hunger Power. People need to stop making sh!t up and sticking imaginary terms to Nihilus.

Regardless, the quote is only about command/control of the Force, his power in the Force is certainly inferior to Nihilus' as has been established in KoTOR II.

Revan and Darth Nihilus are not compared in KOTOR 2 in the context of strength.

However, Jedi Master Kriea praised Revan's connection to the Force and asserted that nobody rivals him in that.

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Originally posted by MythLord
Nihilus is a Force User; there's no such thing as Hunger Power. People need to stop making sh!t up and sticking imaginary terms to Nihilus.

Regardless, the quote is only about command/control of the Force, his power in the Force is certainly inferior to Nihilus' as has been established in KoTOR II.
Yep; Nihilus has more power, but less control.

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Interesting, since he used the power of his hunger to bind himself into his gear. Not his Force Power, not his Ki, not his Voodoo Magic, but the power of his hunger.

It must be tangible to be able to be used as a power source during a feat.

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This isn't DBZ, or A Certain Magical Index.

And you're forgetting that Sith use the Force through their emotions.


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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan and Darth Nihilus are not compared in KOTOR 2 in the context of strength.


Yes it is, lmao.

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However, Jedi Master Kriea praised Revan's connection to the Force and asserted that nobody rivals him in that.


No she didn't, lmao. She said he was "like the heart of the Force", which is much more from a philosophical standpoint and wouldn't apply to Nihilus since he's a Wound in the Force.


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Yes it is, lmao.



No she didn't, lmao. She said he was "like the heart of the Force", which is much more from a philosophical standpoint and wouldn't apply to Nihilus since he's a Wound in the Force.

Statement of such comparison?

Translation: Revan embodies power and his connection to the Force is extraordinary. Straightforward praise, no ifs and buts in this case.

Darth Traya acknowledged immense power in Darth Nihilus as well but she pointed out that his source of strength is also his weakness and undoing.

Point is that Darth Nihilus doesn't embodies power like Revan.

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Geistalt
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Darth Nihilus, a being of pure hunger and dark side power, was approaching the colony.

—Galactic History 79: The Conclave at Katarr
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Darth Nihilus, using only the dark side, holds the ship together from his command post on the bridge.

—Knights of the Old Republic II Prima Guide
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[Visas Marr] gets choked off by Nihilus crushing her windpipe with the Force

—Knights of the Old Republic II
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"His power is great, and it comes from hunger. He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh, and in his wake life dies, sacrificing itself to his hunger."

—Visas Marr

Just to get our point across to Miko.


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WTF is hunger power
Baas has stick power, he solos

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Just to get our point across to Miko.


Your quotes, among others, are really ignorant as it assumes I am saying he uses only one kind of power and it excludes his use of another. He is stated to perform feats with Dark Side power, as well as his Hunger which uses the Force for fuel. As is officially stated, he is both Hunger and Pure Dark Side power. He uses the Dark side for some feats. He is directly stated as using Hunger for others.

I'm not sure how many more times I can repeat the same sources before I get a nose bleed from banging my head against a wall.

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This isn't DBZ, or A Certain Magical Index.

And you're forgetting that Sith use the Force through their emotions.


I'm not sure how you're that simple to understand:

The Force is a fuel source for his hunger, which is consumed and destroyed by it.

His hunger is a power source that uses the metabolized Force to perform feats, per official sources.

I mean seriously, once more, sources directly state its a power source that consumes the Force, and then is used to perform feats. How in god's green earth do you think when Nihilus uses his Hunger to perform feats, that he's using the Force itself rather than energy produced from the destruction of the Force?

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