The whole debate here between me and SunRazer is our Ancestors way of thinking and perception of things.
Ive properly given evidence that our ancestors werent good portraying advanced techs whilst Razer claims that our ancestors shouldve been able to portray Aliens accordingly.
Furthermore, Razer is claiming that our ancestors were incapable of understanding natural process which were misinterpreted as Gods/Godly, wheras ive given him evidence showing that our ancestors technology/science was advanced enough to deferenciate between a cloud and a UFO.
Ive supported my case accordingly.
I dont understand what you are asking of me. May you further explain yourself.
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Wait what? So are you arguing God is actually aliens we've misrepresented through religion?
Is this some prometheus shit here?
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Well to get this topic back on track, here is another good Sam Harris video dismantling religion, except this time he does it within a church. This is a really good little conversation, civil and respectful...
Everyone is an atheist torward the thousands of gods they don't believe in. Atheists just gone one God further...
It's basically the same speech from the original post of this thread, but someone synced it with appropriate video footage, so it's actually much more poignant.
Peterson is an intellectual joke when it comes to religion.
I feel like this is less a critique of Christianity and more just Sam Harris' own fabricated interpretation of the Bible. If he wants to properly tear down Christianity he should make sure his knowledge of scripture is strong, as opposed to tearing down things that many Christians don't even believe, or are unsure about.
1. The Bible doesn't say that people born without access to knowledge of Jesus are incapable of heaven. Abraham was born long before Jesus was, and it's made clear he will be in heaven, he was commended for his faith. On top of this, the Bible (particularly the book of Revelations), makes it clear that heaven and hell are not the only afterlife options. There's heaven, hell, earth, the new heaven, the new earth and the second death. Sleep is also an implied option. Someone could end up in any of these places, depending on their faith and/or their works.
2. Is like saying that evolution is the belief that my uncle is an chimpanzee. You try and tell someone who is ignorant in a sentence what "evolution" is and their first response would be that you are crazy.
3. They can be forgiven for it, in theory, doesn't mean they'll make it to heaven though. That's not scriptural.
4. Ok. No surprise that an entity as big as God is mysterious to small humans.
5. Probably inspired by the Bible. Tolkien was a Christian after all.
6. I'm not even sure if it's biblical to say that everything God does is "good". But it would be biblical to say that he doesn't do evil.
An accurate, scripture wide interpretation of Gods nature would be this: He is omnipresent, eternal, and possesses all of the power and knowledge in the universe. He doesn't owe us eternal life and so our time on earth is temporary. Only God knows the details of what will happen in the afterlife for any given individual, it's not black and white.
Being all powerful doesn't mean there aren't limits to what he can do, after all you can't be more powerful than all powerful, the upper limit to his own power is his inability to contradict himself. The limits are set by himself.
Salvation by faith in Hey-Zeus. Not works. Clearly you don't know Christian doctrine like you claim you do.
Wtf does this even mean? Evolution has nothing to do with belief. It's the fundamental explanation for the diversity of life backed up by multiples lines of scientific evidence.
The scripture says a ton of contradictory nonsense, so just about anything can be scriptural or NOT scriptural (simultaneously). But the general Christian dogma is that you just have to repeat a few magic lines to the invisible man in the sky and you are "saved," forgiven of sin and you get to hang out with your victims in heaven apparently (that wouldn't be awkward or anything).
*Yeshua. You assumed I was using and/or exclusively, when I was actually using it inclusively.
You're right, modern sources often disagree on details, the problem is that you're attributing these flaws to the authors of the Bible rather than to the people who didn't bother to study the scriptures properly, such as yourself!
None of what you've said really addresses the point or provides any reasonable explanation of such scriptural stupidity.
But just for fun let me post out the passages mentioned...
Matthew 10:
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 22:
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
1 John 4:
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
If the Matthew 10 passage confuses you, then swap it out with the many "fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" passages. Even the slightest application of logic shows this to be scriptural stupidity. But yes, I know logic is supposed to be abandoned and replaced with all sorts of rationalizations and excuses. I'm savvy to it all. And that's why it's a cult.
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Nov 16th, 2017 05:56 PM
very true
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