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Dr Will Hatch
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I sympathize with that sentiment (except I don't think the Sharon Tate stuff was totally pointless as it came together at the end), I think Tarantino might have gotten a little carried away in the editing room with all the songs and driving and such. I thought a lot of it was sort of a nostalgia wank-fest. I think it's sort of intended as a way to soak up the scenery and live in the "world" (so to speak). But yeah, I agree I was a little bored at times. I'll be interested to see how it plays with repeat viewings.



Yeah, I'll be honest I wasn't very familiar with the Manson family before the film, but I sort of caught on while watching the film and then read up on it after. That helped me appreciate the film a lot more. The film is another parallel universe "vengeance flick" basically.


Yeah, I think to appreciate it most, you either have to be familiar with the Manson killings or to have been alive when the movie takes place. A lot of people today don't understand just how much Tate's murder unnerved people. This was before serial killers were well known by the general public, and it helped put America in a bad mood, leading to the shitastic, cynical place we're in now. This movie was almost like a fairy tale, asking what would have happened if that hadn't happened.

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How familiar are you with the Manson Family? I think the more knowledgeable you are about it, the more powerful the movie ends up being.


I know enough to know that in real life Tate was murdered and Tarantino switched that around as he did in Inglorious Basterds but I still found it to be boring fluff, like somebody else said tho perhaps that'll change on repeat viewings for me

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Loved the ending smile


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Great acting.
Visually amazing.
Phenomenal soundtrack
Hilarious violence (for 5 minutes)
Absolutely zero plot.


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Enjoyed the movie greatly.


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Absolutely zero plot.


Yeah, it sort of meanders. That's why I'm curious to see how much I'll like it when I see it for the 2nd time, 3rd time, etc..


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Yeah, it sort of meanders. That's why I'm curious to see how much I'll like it when I see it for the 2nd time, 3rd time, etc..


I'll be interested to see Tarantino's thought process on it and why he chose to do that. His plots are usually very intricate. I'm guessing it's his critique on relationships in Hollywood. Everyone being detached from one another and very few meaningful personal relationships. Lots of disingenuous compliments and fakery.

The soundtrack, while brilliant, was also very jarring as it hard cut between 3 and 4 songs one after the other. Like it is reflecting how short lived times in the character's lives are as they go from one job to another.

Sometimes it felt very self indulgent. Like, ok Quentin, you love old movie posters. We don't need shots of them every 5 seconds.

Still don't know whether I liked it or not.

All I can say is that it was very weird.


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Great acting.
Visually amazing.
Phenomenal soundtrack
Hilarious violence (for 5 minutes)
Absolutely zero plot.


laughing out loud

Sums it up pretty well.

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Enjoyed the movie greatly.


Same.


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What bugs me is some of the critiques. Okay I can understand why some might not like the way Bruce Lee is portrayed, but I've seen more than one article that cries over the violence against the women at the end.

There was a guy there as well, it wasn't just women. And these weren't normal women they came with the intent to commit murder and thus deserved their fate. I can't get why someone would cry over violent would be murderers ending up meeting violent fates themselves.


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I can't get why someone would cry over violent would be murderers ending up meeting violent fates themselves.


Especially since Manson Family succeeded in real life.

The movie is just a fantasy that gives us a happy ending. There's nothing to be upset about.

It's less brutal than Tarantino's other films, too.


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Yeah, it sort of meanders. That's why I'm curious to see how much I'll like it when I see it for the 2nd time, 3rd time, etc..


zero plot? It's all there. Perhaps you do need to see it a few times to get it.

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zero plot? It's all there. Perhaps you do need to see it a few times to get it.


"Zero plot" was not my wording, broseph.


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Absolutely zero plot.


If you couldn't find a plot in this film, it doesn't say much for your critical abilities.

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What bugs me is some of the critiques. Okay I can understand why some might not like the way Bruce Lee is portrayed, but I've seen more than one article that cries over the violence against the women at the end.

There was a guy there as well, it wasn't just women. And these weren't normal women they came with the intent to commit murder and thus deserved their fate. I can't get why someone would cry over violent would be murderers ending up meeting violent fates themselves.


Anyone who knows who those women were wouldn't have sympathy for them.

Like I said before, I think the more you know about the Manson murders, the more this movie will impact you.

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Anyone who knows who those women were wouldn't have sympathy for them.


It goes without saying.

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Like I said before, I think the more you know about the Manson murders, the more this movie will impact you.


thumb up

PS. Hatch, get yourself a f*cking custom avatar. Seriously.


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Anyone who knows who those women were wouldn't have sympathy for them.

Like I said before, I think the more you know about the Manson murders, the more this movie will impact you.


Yep, the brutality of the actual murders is still worse than what we see in the movie.


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The film is an unadulterated ode that only Tarantino can make, one that blends cynicism with reverence to form a portrait where beautiful faces are never at odds with grime, alcohol and giddy murder.

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Good Movie.
Has a different tone and pace than most other Tarantino films but I still enjoyed it for what it was.


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Never got around to seeing it. I will more than likely purchase this digitally.


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Definitely will be better for those that are familiar with Sharon Tate and the Manson murders, even though a large portion of the film is not about that.


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