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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
From the scans I've seen...this feat is getting a lot more respect from people who argued heavily against World breaker despite it being far more hearsay. Regardless, Orion's feat is obviously far more impressive in the scale of collateral damage (Even though it was a clash and he nearly died where as Hulk threw a punch) but Hulks is far more impressive to me in terms of relativity many times over.

You can substitute Orion for a shit load of space Heralds but almost no character I can think of could replicate Hulk's. Multiple Herald level bricks magnified in strength were incinerated in the after shocks. To me that is far more impressive.

Orion didn't die against the golem. He had a minor nosebleed.

Further it was with his strength hence "shockwaves". You don't generate shockwaves with energy blasts.

I'm not surprised you think a planet getting destroyed by shockwaves is more impressive than a star system getting destroyed by shockwaves.


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I can't believe i'm 100% with Rage on this one. On scale of a star system, personally i'll have to see it to believe such damage was caused.


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I can't believe i'm 100% with Rage on this one. On scale of a star system, personally i'll have to see it to believe such damage was caused.


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It doesn't get much clearer than that.

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WBH feat was a shared feat. Betty was amped by the wishing well, Hulk probably too. Still they did it together and under the influence of the wishing well, ambiguous at best.
EVEN if we would grant Hulk the feat as his own only, which it was not, it would still be leagues below what Orion did. Orions attack turned a whole Solar System to dust and the God Killer tanking it is just insane. Look up the distance between Earth and the Sun, Jupiter and the Sun and Pluto and the Sun, compare it to the size of an Earth or smaller Planet like the one in the Dark Dimension and imagine how much Power you need to outright destroy something so far away as a side effect of your attack.

Orions feat sh!ts all over WBH and Bettys nonfeat.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Further it was with his strength hence "shockwaves". You don't generate shockwaves with energy blasts.


In general, or in this instance, because one of those options would be dead wrong.


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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
WBH feat was a shared feat. Betty was amped by the wishing well, Hulk probably too. Still they did it together and under the influence of the wishing well, ambiguous at best.
EVEN if we would grant Hulk the feat as his own only, which it was not, it would still be leagues below what Orion did. Orions attack turned a whole Solar System to dust and the God Killer tanking it is just insane. Look up the distance between Earth and the Sun, Jupiter and the Sun and Pluto and the Sun, compare it to the size of an Earth or smaller Planet like the one in the Dark Dimension and imagine how much Power you need to outright destroy something so far away as a side effect of your attack.

Orions feat sh!ts all over WBH and Bettys nonfeat.


You add much to an off panel confrontation that is given no details. Where is it stated that Orion attacks and GK only tanks? The one scene we see of them squaring off shows GK emitting energy. We see it building up another charge before Orion's death is faked.

WBH is specifically not amped and Betty is amped only to match him. What they accomplish is done with strength. Orion and GK use energy. Explosions cause shockwaves all the time.

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Which space herald destroyed a star system with shockwaves?
Not even what was shown. That was in a different location. Orion later boom tubes in the destroyed solar system.
Because at that time it was shown as the Godkillers power. Now it is stated as Orion's attack.

Here he literally boom tubes in the already destroyed solar system.

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So we see nothing? We are basing this showing off of a statement from a character that wasn't even there to witness anything? This is hilarious. Pretend like This was Surfer, would you accept the showing?


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Further it was with his strength hence "shockwaves". You don't generate shockwaves with energy blasts.


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In general, or in this instance, because one of those options would be dead wrong.

In general.
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So we see nothing? We are basing this showing off of a statement from a character that wasn't even there to witness anything? This is hilarious. Pretend like This was Surfer, would you accept the showing?

Yes, why wouldn't I? The solar system was destroyed on panel and he was stated to be the cause of it.
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That wasn't due to Orion's attacks. It was due to Technis who had burrowed deep into Earth and destroying it would've destroyed the earth.

New 52 Orion doesn't has astro force AFAIK hence it was not an energy attack.


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ABHI, I have seen you argue consistently against statements. You're being hypocritical right now.


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ABHI, I have seen you argue consistently against statements. You're being hypocritical right now.

Statements with nothing to show. This is as indisputable as it goes.


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You guys are all missing the point of the OP.

All things considered, which is the biggest feat. NOT, did Orion's feat actually happen.

Jesus wept....


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Originally posted by abhilegend
In general.


Then I don't understand what you're getting at. Energy blasts that are strong enough kinetically would create shockwaves. It isn't limited to punches and kicks.

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You guys are all missing the point of the OP.

All things considered, which is the biggest feat. NOT, did Orion's feat actually happen.

Jesus wept....


It's the only way people can argue against Orion though, as far as I've seen.

What was WBHs best feat? The dimension one?


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Yeah, the Dark Dimension feat.

Assuming both events happened, which is thebigger of the two. That's all. Not: WBH 's is better, because Orion's feat didn't happen.....


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Yeah, the Dark Dimension feat.

Assuming both events happened, which is thebigger of the two. That's all. Not: WBH 's is better, because Orion's feat didn't happen.....


I'd like to say I'm surprised, but... Imagine if Superman did it, though?


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It is obvious which feat is bigger.

One is a planet buster the other one a solar system buster.


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Solar System buster, ftw.

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It definitely destroyed more , but what's impressive about Hulks feat isn't the planet breaking, but the people he killed by slamming into Betty. Pretty strong folks and an army of mindless ones no less.


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You guys are all missing the point of the OP.

All things considered, which is the biggest feat. NOT, did Orion's feat actually happen.

Jesus wept....


If that's the point, it's understandable that it was missed. Your title describes the feat as "Orion's", thus people are going to argue it based on what Orion does. You would have had to ask if this solar system destroying explosion greater than The Dark Dimension explosions in Hulk's book.

Is the feat greater no matter who does it? Hulk's feat comes from punch shockwaves. This recent one comes from energy projection. Energy projection almost always produces significantly greater collateral damage. So which one is more impressive is still up for grabs.

As for who performs the feat, it is clearly predominantly the god killer. GL blames Orion because it is the result of the confrontation. If I kick a bomb and cause it to explode, I would be said to have caused the explosion. But it wouldn't be a feat for me.

We see a panel of the confrontation and we see god Killer releasing energy. It's clear cut. Clearly Orion escapes the explosion by boom tubing away and later boom tubes back to that location after Hal arrives.

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