There's a hole in that photo I posted. If there was a slit, the hole would be longer and wider to follow the slit.
What do you mean changing my argument? I'm not trying to have it both ways. This doesn't conflict with anything I've ever said about the armor. I haven't ever even been in an intense debate about the armor to my knowledge, so you sound like your confusing me with someone else. Plus, being stabbed by Asgardian weapons isn't the same as being stabbed by normal weapons. Just look at Thor. The dude has all kinds of durability feats, but he got pierced by Loki's asgardian knives all the same.
Yeah, but that's assuming it doesn't just reform around the spear on a smaller scale. Hell, maybe that did rip out at an angle and the it just reformed that section. There's no way to tell since we don't get the angle. All we do know is that there's a hole there in it's upper back at one point, and it's embedded in its neck slit when it's completely turned around. The only way that's possible is if it reforms.
Because thats when it's already turned around. That part is screenshotted because you only get that angle to look at the original piecing on its back. At first it's in its back. Then it's in its neck. It reformed the embedded location.
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Actually there is a way to tell, based of how the destroyer gets the spear out, if you look at the area.
Also all of his amor spun around, if there was a hole the spear would have been turned around with every thing else, it didn't. And you can clearly see the armor moving around the spear.
Thats the proof it was in the slit and not hole.
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Unless it just reformed around the spear the same way the rest of it's body did. There's no way to tell after he turns around. The picture I posted before pretty clearly shows a hole, because a slit would have widened all along the slit. Not just that small section it pierced.
The hole you think you see is based off the angle of the shot, if you cared to watch the whole video, from a different angle which has a better shot, you would see you are wrong.
If the spear made a hole in the armor that means the spear is surrounded on all sides by metal. If the spear is surrounded by metal then sed metal moving would either rip the spear out of the ground or rip a line through the moving metal.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
While not as powerful as the comic version, despite this, the Destroyer is one of the most powerful non-living weapons in the MCU. The Destroyer operates at the behest of whomever holds Gungnir, the Asgardian ruler's spear, and can therefore be used for good or for evil depending on who sits on the throne. It can also therefore be stopped by an attack on its vulnerable master. The Destroyer was programmed solely for battle and destruction.
Advanced Strength: The Destroyer's large size and construction gives it a formidable physical power, enough to bat away a car hurled at it with apparent ease and swat Thor back several feet with one hit (although Thor was temporarily human at the time).
Advanced Durability: The Destroyer was constructed of alien materials that makes it highly resistant to damage. Even when pierced by an Asgardian lance it was able to continue functioning and remove it from its body and showed no signs of damage from it.
Energy Blast: The Destroyer contains Odinforce that can be unleashed through an aperture in its head. When it does this, part of the facial structure retracts downward into the lower face and the energy discharge lances out the orange-white beam. The touch of this beam was enough to blast a car to pieces or vaporize a living being. At full power, it nearly devastated half of a town.
Retrograde Positioning: The Destroyer is able to move its armor pieces so that it faces the opposite way without turning around; its back side becomes its front side and vice versa. This was used when Lady Sif drove a lance through its back and the Destroyer positions itself to blast her.
2. It showed no signs of damage after turning around and reforming.
Like I said:
I'm not trying to be stubborn here (and it's pointless to keep repeating ourselves), but that photo does show a hole. The way the hole curves downwards so steeply instead of widening along the slit suggest the metal was in someway warped. It just doesn't make sense otherwise. Now lets say, for the sake of argument, that it did go through a slit. The curve of the metal at the entry point is still too steep for it to be just sitting there. It would have had to at least warp the edges. This seems less likely though, because it probably would have just pushed the bands apart.
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Reforming around the spear would still mean the spear is surrounded on all sides by metal and thus when the bands move, the spear would either get ripped out of the ground or rip through the metal.
Why are we even wasting time with this tangent as even if we grant self-healing to the Destroyer, the IM armor is still the better choice.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I more mean "restructuring" as opposed to reforming. Maybe it just pushed out the spear to the nearest chink like how your skin would eventually push out a splinter. That's a stab in the dark though since we never actually get to see how it happened.
IDK thats a good point. Reforming or not, I'd still take Jarvis and the armor.
Especially if, at some point in time, the Destroyer demonstrates the same capability that it does in the comics (the ability to house the spiritual energies of the entire Asgardian Race and grow exponentially more powerful as a result)...
Even asumming that it never shows the ability to do that, I'd still pick the Destroyer; near Invulnerability with zero maintenance is too good to pass up...
The Armor was clearly damaged as it was temporarily shut down by Sif's attack and had to reboot itself...
As for the Spear, the armor is "magic" (actually extremely advanced tech) so it can apparently do things that defy logic was pertains to fixing itself around the spear...
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
These are the exact points I've been making. At this point, it feels like I'm just repeating them over and over. Either way, like SM said. This tangent isn't worth the effort.
Also, I'm kind of surprised you picked the Destroyer over the IM armor. What applications do you have in mind for it? I guess it'd be a pretty sweet weapon you could contract out and be rich off of, but it doesn't do much besides lumber around and shoot lasers.
If it ever did approach it's comic self though, that would be pretty different.
If it made a hole in the armor. The spear would have spun around or warped the armor. It did neither. This is undeniable no matter how hard you want to avoid it.
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