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I never said the celebs were praising him. I said some of them knew about this, for years, and said nothing.
1. There's no evidence celebs knew anything but rumors

2. Challenging a media titan who could legally crush you is a career killing move. The power dynamic is intense.

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How many of them said nothing due to a lack of any real evidence or fear for their careers though? It can be argued to be cowardly, but I wouldn't claim they endorse his actions, though some, like I'd imagine Whoopie Goldberg, likely do.


Some of them are coming forward about their own experiences.


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1. There's no evidence celebs knew anything but rumors

2. Challenging a media titan who could legally crush you is a career killing move. The power dynamic is intense.


Multiple celebrities have come forward with encounters. How is it you do not know this?


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Some of them are coming forward about their own experiences.
It becomes a lot less scary to do something when it was started by someone else, and Harvey has essentially lost all power in Hollywood. He is no longer a threat to their careers.


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It becomes a lot less scary to do something when it was started by someone else, and Harvey has essentially lost all power in Hollywood. He is no longer a threat to their careers.


Right, and we have stories from some of these women who had it happen also saying others knew lol. So I mean...either you believe their entire claim or none of it. I leave that choice up to you.


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1. There's no evidence celebs knew anything but rumors

2. Challenging a media titan who could legally crush you is a career killing move. The power dynamic is intense.


Remember, the "it's just locker room talk" and similar defenses only work one-sided. 'Leftist" are supposed to pounce and react on anything, even the slightless rumor or they're scum.


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Remember, the "it's just locker room talk" and similar defenses only work one-sided. 'Leftist" are supposed to pounce and react on anything, even the slightless rumor or they're scum.


Bringing up the locker room thing is silly. This would be different if all the guy did was say creepy things to some friend. If you believe the stories about Weinstein..it went WAY further than that.

If you want to say the accusers are lying about Weinstein that is certainly a route to go. But there is that email from Weinstein begging for celebrities to help not get him fired and saying he needs to get treatment, etc.


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Bringing up the locker room thing is silly. This would be different if all the guy did was say creepy things to some friend. If you believe the stories about Weinstein..it went WAY further than that.
How about all the women who came forward with stories of harassment from Trump? Let me guess, they shouldn't be listened to or believed?

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Sean Hannity did his usual spin attacking Liberals over some claimed "Weinstein hypocrisy". He had O'Reilly as a guest two weeks prior where O'Reilly was promoting his new book. Oh conservatives...


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How about all the women who came forward with stories of harassment from Trump? Let me guess, they shouldn't be listened to or believed?


But Trump has denied that and we have not been given any evidence to support those things.

We have the email from Weinstein more or less begging for help and saying he needs to get treatment,etc. It sounds like he is more or less acknowledging he did these things.


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Bringing up the locker room thing is silly. This would be different if all the guy did was say creepy things to some friend. If you believe the stories about Weinstein..it went WAY further than that.

If you want to say the accusers are lying about Weinstein that is certainly a route to go. But there is that email from Weinstein begging for celebrities to help not get him fired and saying he needs to get treatment, etc.


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Sean Hannity did his usual spin attacking on Liberals over some claimed "Weinstein hypocrisy". He had O'Reilly as a guest two weeks prior where O'Reilly was promoting his new book. Oh conservatives...


Indeed, both sides are hypocrites you are correct. But because Sean is a hypocrite doesn't mean he's necessarily wrong when he labels someone else a hypocrite. In this case he is more or less correct.


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But Trump has denied that and we have not been given any evidence to support those things.

We have the email from Weinstein more or less begging for help and saying he needs to get treatment,etc. It sounds like he is more or less acknowledging he did these things.
Here's a link including many allegations of sexual harassment against Trump

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37641814

What is your response to this?

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Sean Hannity did his usual spin attacking on Liberals over some claimed "Weinstein hypocrisy". He had O'Reilly as a guest two weeks prior where O'Reilly was promoting his new book. Oh conservatives...


At least some Celebs are willing to defend Harvey....

Lindsay "She Goes Low" Lohan defends Harvey Weinstein


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Lol so wait, you refuse to acknowledge the real differences in these cases? The email he wrote begging for support makes him sound guilty as hell.


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And no one is really defending Weinstein... he's ousted; not in power. He's a pariah now. Get that finally?


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Here's a link including many allegations of sexual harassment against Trump

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37641814

What is your response to this?


My response is that you seem to not be reading my responses.


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At least some Celebs are willing to defend Harvey....

Lindsay "She Goes Low" Lohan defends Harvey Weinstein
Yeah Lindsey Lohan isn't a glowing example of mental stability or sanity so...

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And no one is really defending Weinstein... he's ousted; not in power. He's a pariah now. Get that finally?


But again: all I said was that some knew and said nothing. So saying "they condemned it once they found out" is just not correct. They did not condemn it as soon as they found out, at least not all of them. Now you can give whatever reason you want for why they didn't, but the fact is they did not.


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