I was referring to the "end of story" part of the meme.
Also, I feel there's an important asterix to add here:
The civil war was about protecting the union, not ending slavery. The union became anti-slavery because taking away slaves who the south depended on so that they could fight for the north was mainly because it would, and did, turn the tide of the war which Lincoln's general's had managed to fck up because of internal disputes regarding slavery.
Prior to the war, Lincoln both privately and publicly denounced blacks as lesser than whites and at best was hoping for an eventual emancipation that likely involved salves being shipped off and left to their own devices in Africa.
This is one topic where I'm especially knowledgeable since I extensively researched Lincoln when writing a generally pro-Lincoln paper about him.
2. I don't believe these riots are only about racism. Even if the rioters think it is.
About the only good liberal activists have done is let poor minorites realize how ****ed they are, stirred the pot constantly, and profited off their anger.
Sad thing is, the white bigots make it easy for them. Poor racists vs poor blacks is easy money if you're in the yellow journalism business..
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That is the bizarre thing. The black community has more or less stayed loyal to the democrats, despite not really having any valid reasons to do so anymore.
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Likely because Democrats provided stronger support for civil rights than Republicans did.
This isn't to say they were purely motivated by having a good heart, or they were completely non-racist, though that's true of likely any equality movement ever.
Yes. Blacks have most def Prospered under Democrat Rule.
Their Families are in shambles, their neighborhoods and cities are literal hell on earth and they are all but enslaved to the welfare system run by said democrats.
Its Good Times all around
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But how do they not see they are being manipulated and the Dems are pursuing those causes mainly to get their votes? That is part of the reason why they always seem to be very quick to label someone a racist even when they aren't being racist. As long as they can convince minorities that the conservative side is filled mostly with racists these groups will continue to vote democrat no matter how bad the situations in their communities get.
They know there were a lot of people who voted for Trump merely because they can't stand Hilary. This is why some people try to spin it and equate a vote for Trump as essentially a vote in support of the racist qualities they perceive him to have.
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That applies to most politicians, anywhere in the world. That's how a republic is supposed to work. You do what the people want in order to gain reelection. If that's manipulation, then the vast majority of laws passed by anyone would count as manipulation.
Maybe....just maybe....they say someone's racist because there are racist undertones in what they say?
There's no need for exaggeration here. It's not "always", and there's plenty of cases where people are calling people racist for being racist.
Also, don't take this personally, but what you just said about black people being easily manipulated can very reasonably taken to have implicit racist undertones.
You imply the vast majority of black people are supporting democrats because they're being gullible, rather than considering that Republicans may not be doing a good enough job to earn their votes.
Why should we assume that minorities are being dumb when they vote overwhelmingly in favor of democrats? Why would we not assume white people are just being dumb when they vote overwhelmingly in favor of republicans?
Generalizations like the one you're making does absolutely no good for discussion. If you feel there are democratic policies which are specifically hurting black people, then be specific, don't make a sweeping generalization that black people are voting for democrats rather than republicans because they're gullible.
Again, if black people favor democrats over republicans, there's a good chance it's at least partially because republican policy would hurt black people more than democratic policy.
Also, at the moment, Republicans control all the branches of the government. If things get worse, they should bear the brunt of the blame.
What does racism have to do with hating Hillary?
And there's no denying that part of Trump's support came from racists, just as part of Hilarly's support likely came for people who are genuinely "extreme leftists".
The problem with political discussion today is instead of being specific, we look at things and discuss things way to broadly, rather than getting at what matters the most regarding policy, the details.
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Lol but...no, there are not racist undertones in every single thing they scream racism about. Sean Spicer told a reporter to stop nodding her head. But because she was female and black they screamed sexism and racism. It wasn't either of those things. Trump talks about making America great or about how great western civilization is and..."racist dog whistles!" is the moronic response.
That one guy, I forget his name, but he owned Jim Acosta when that imbecile brought up "herp derp but there is nothing about speaking english on the statue of liberty". During that encounter he used the word cosmopolitan. The media seized upon it also a racist "dog whistle" because of the anti-semitic origins or something. But...the guy who said it is Jewish lol. And side note dear god that shows you where some on the left are at, when they thin saying something isn't written on a statue is a valid defense.
And no, saying a group of people get manipulated is not racist lol. If I said their race was the reason they are manipulated you could shout racism.
It's because the democrats know who to pander to. They paint the other side as racist so they can continue to get votes. Anyone falling for that is dumb as hell, regardless of race.
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That's a strawman Surt. Nobody said that every time some accuses someone else of racism, there's racism involved.
Uh, whether or not that's racism or sexism, telling a reporter to stop nodding is fcking retarded. And the response is fairly understandable when that's sh!t that sexists and racists have historically done. I'm not sure why you're more worried anout the word "racist" than the fact that someone who speaks for the president feels it's appropriate to try and control what people do.
That isn't racism bro. How about we stop cherrypicking anecdotal evidence?
Saying an entire race of people are just being gullible when they vote democratic smacks of implicit racism. You're broadly painting all black people as gullible dudes who are being manipulated.
I I was to say that Republicans are just manipulating white people to vote for them, would you be ok with that?
Don't generalize.
You know, instead of putting al the blame on democrats, maybe conservatives should consider adopting more policies that help black people?
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