Rebel95
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Arya, she's too fast/agile. But if the Hound can hit her or get his hands on her, she's done.
Oct 9th, 2017 02:37 AM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
Provide some cold, hard evidence for this bold claim.
I know you can't though. You never do. You're a worthless piece of human garbage.
I could. Should I? Clearly you have no sense of reason.
Do yourself a favor kid, and go watch Game of Thrones before posting.
(By that i mean i won't waste my time bringing evidence to a person who clearly doesn't know what he is talking about).
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Oct 9th, 2017 02:56 AM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rebel95
Arya, she's too fast/agile. But if the Hound can hit her or get his hands on her, she's done.
If Brienne couldnt, i don't see why Sandor could.
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Oct 9th, 2017 02:57 AM
NemeBro
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I could. Should I? Clearly you have no sense of reason.
Do yourself a favor kid, and go watch Game of Thrones before posting.
(By that i mean i won't waste my time bringing evidence to a person who clearly doesn't know what he is talking about).
I accept your concession nerd.
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Oct 9th, 2017 03:21 AM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
I accept your concession nerd.
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Oct 9th, 2017 03:30 AM
Psychotron
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
The first tournament I ever went to I was eliminated by a 55 yr old, 5 foot woman.
Don't get me wrong, size and strength definitely has advantages. But leverage and physics will still trump size and strength, as long as you're able to do it properly.
So you tried to cut her in half with a bastard sword and she blocked it? Remember, I was talking about blocking, nothing more.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
She doesn't need to.
Arya is fast enough to evade every blow from Sandor.
Arya takes this, Sandor isn't even NEAR to the level Arya is.
Lol wut? What has Arya done to put her on the Hound's level?
Oct 9th, 2017 09:08 AM
FrothByte
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
So you tried to cut her in half with a bastard sword and she blocked it? Remember, I was talking about blocking, nothing more.
Lol wut? What has Arya done to put her on the Hound's level?
Not a bastard sword, no. I was using a scottish broadsword and she blocked it with her rapier's hilt a few times. Wouldn't matter how strongly I tried to hit, there's too much leverage advantage there. If you fenced you'd understand the concept of strong and weak of the blade. As long as the blade doesn't break, it's going to be very hard to power through someone who blocks close to their guard, especially if they brace their body behind it.
Why do you think shields work?
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Oct 9th, 2017 04:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Not a bastard sword, no. I was using a scottish broadsword and she blocked it with her rapier's hilt a few times. Wouldn't matter how strongly I tried to hit, there's too much leverage advantage there. If you fenced you'd understand the concept of strong and weak of the blade. As long as the blade doesn't break, it's going to be very hard to power through someone who blocks close to their guard, especially if they brace their body behind it.
Why do you think shields work?
Well, considering Sandor has bisected a man wearing plate armor as well as cut through Berric's sword I think it's fair to say he can do that to Arya's toothpick. He won't in the show because grrl power, but that's another matter.
Oct 9th, 2017 04:50 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
So you tried to cut her in half with a bastard sword and she blocked it? Remember, I was talking about blocking, nothing more.
Lol wut? What has Arya done to put her on the Hound's level?
Defeat the one who defeated the Hound: Brienne.
Arya has become one of the best fighters in the realm. Maybe only Jaime could be at her level. Or Ned Stark.
You know, the old experienced fighters.
Arya had no trouble fighting Brienne, which puts her automatically on top of the Hound.
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Oct 9th, 2017 05:01 PM
FrothByte
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
Well, considering Sandor has bisected a man wearing plate armor as well as cut through Berric's sword I think it's fair to say he can do that to Arya's toothpick. He won't in the show because grrl power, but that's another matter.
It will be dependent on how strong Needle is. Like I said, if the blade holds then Arya should be able to block with proper technique. If it breaks, well, she gets cut in two.
It doesn't really matter anyway since I don't recall Arya ever performing a hard block with her sword. She parries, deflects and dodges.
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Oct 9th, 2017 05:21 PM
FrothByte
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Defeat the one who defeated the Hound: Brienne.
Arya has become one of the best fighters in the realm. Maybe only Jaime could be at her level. Or Ned Stark.
You know, the old experienced fighters.
Arya had no trouble fighting Brienne, which puts her automatically on top of the Hound.
To be fair, Brienne never defeated the Hound in a fair fight. And Brienne wasn't taking Arya seriously in the first few seconds of their fight.
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Oct 9th, 2017 05:22 PM
KingD19
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This literally comes down to a single blow from Sandor. If he can catch Arya, she's dead as dust. However, if she goes straight for the kill like she demonstrated she could against Brienne. I see her taking some wins. She knows all about Hound, but he's never seen Arya fight properly like she can now. He wouldn't expect her to dodge a strike, pop up behind him and drive Needle through the back of his neck.
Oct 9th, 2017 05:23 PM
Psychotron
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
It will be dependent on how strong Needle is. Like I said, if the blade holds then Arya should be able to block with proper technique. If it breaks, well, she gets cut in two.
It doesn't really matter anyway since I don't recall Arya ever performing a hard block with her sword. She parries, deflects and dodges.
Needle is just normal steel blade, I doubt the Hound will have a problem with it.
Maybe, I don't want to re-watch that awful scene again. I think the Hound is the kind of guy who would take a stab just to disarm Arya, and then it's gg no re. He's been through worse, after all.
Btw, I love how the Hound has to be naked for Arya to have a chance. If he was fully geared he would walk her down.
Oct 9th, 2017 05:58 PM
FrothByte
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
Needle is just normal steel blade, I doubt the Hound will have a problem with it.
Maybe, I don't want to re-watch that awful scene again. I think the Hound is the kind of guy who would take a stab just to disarm Arya, and then it's gg no re. He's been through worse, after all.
Btw, I love how the Hound has to be naked for Arya to have a chance. If he was fully geared he would walk her down.
Allowing one opponent armor and the other none hardly seems fair.
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Oct 9th, 2017 06:20 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by KingD19
This literally comes down to a single blow from Sandor. If he can catch Arya, she's dead as dust. However, if she goes straight for the kill like she demonstrated she could against Brienne. I see her taking some wins. She knows all about Hound, but he's never seen Arya fight properly like she can now. He wouldn't expect her to dodge a strike, pop up behind him and drive Needle through the back of his neck.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
Needle is just normal steel blade, I doubt the Hound will have a problem with it.
Maybe, I don't want to re-watch that awful scene again. I think the Hound is the kind of guy who would take a stab just to disarm Arya, and then it's gg no re. He's been through worse, after all.
Btw, I love how the Hound has to be naked for Arya to have a chance. If he was fully geared he would walk her down.
Lol, Needle is Valyrian steel dude. Is harder than normal steel.
Could he take multiple stabs? Cause Arya would stabb him to death without Sandor even being able to see the hits coming.
Arya>Brienne who is > than Sandor.
That should make it clear who the victor here is.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Allowing one opponent armor and the other none hardly seems fair.
Arya doesn't need the Armor. Armor would only make her heavier and slower, which would in fact make it unfair, since Arya has never weared armor when fighting.
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Oct 9th, 2017 06:31 PM
Psychotron
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Allowing one opponent armor and the other none hardly seems fair.
Why? Arya chooses to fight that way. It's her style to be quick and nimble, right?
Oct 9th, 2017 07:35 PM
FrothByte
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
Why? Arya chooses to fight that way. It's her style to be quick and nimble, right?
If we gave both of them access to full equipment then Arya would be using different disguises and be using poison and deciept to kill Sandor.
That would make for a boring fight. So I removed most of their regular gear and limited them to a sword each.
It's not like Sandor is helpless without armor.
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Oct 9th, 2017 09:08 PM
Psychotron
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
If we gave both of them access to full equipment then Arya would be using different disguises and be using poison and deciept to kill Sandor.
That would make for a boring fight. So I removed most of their regular gear and limited them to a sword each.
It's not like Sandor is helpless without armor.
That wouldn't be a fight, that would be assassination.
Oct 9th, 2017 09:35 PM
KingD19
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[QUOTE=16359640]Originally posted by Psychotron
That wouldn't be a fight, that would be assassination. [/QUOTE
And 5 foot tall Arya vs 6'6 Sandor in full plate with her very short rapier is futile because she could only target his facr and maybe hands. You cant have it both ways.
Oct 10th, 2017 03:02 AM
NemeBro
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by KingD19
And 5 foot tall Arya vs 6'6 Sandor in full plate with her very short rapier is futile because she could only target his facr and maybe hands. You cant have it both ways.
No, there's a big difference between Sandor being given access to his full preferred equipment and making a fight that isn't even a versus thread, but a "Sandor sits on his hands doing nothing in particular while Arya plots to specifically kill him without his knowledge".
That's not a fight my friend, no more than making a thread where Arya is strapped to a bed butt naked and the Hound is feeling randy and wants to rape her would be a fight.
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