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Josh_Alexander
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I'm confused. Malgus and Revan aren't even canon characters, Plagueis has no canon feats only hearsay from palpatine in EP 3, and Banes only canon appearance was in the last season of tcw cartoon as a force ghost.

If your comparing sidious canon feats to the others, then they have basically nothing.

If u compare their non-canon EU feats to palpatines non canon EU feats, they fall way short.

Only if u compare their non-canon EU feats to his canon movie only feats, could any of them win against him. And even then you would have to disregard all his other actual Disney canon materiel in novels like lords of the sith, the new comics, source books etc...


I decided to bring Revan and Malgus into this thread because of the Theories that have been circulating.

Now it's true that All information on comics and videogames is to be considered NON CANON due to Disney only focusing on the Movies and Books.

But if the Theories are right, Disney could make an exception and use Revan's or Malgus' storyline's and mold it to fit Snoke.

That's why I said,"If my theories are right".

Now, still, Bane and Plaeguis are canon. So still, Sidious isn't necessary the most powerful Sith.


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Now, still, Bane and Plaeguis are canon. So still, Sidious isn't necessary the most powerful Sith.

But they have no feats

Sidious is just better: as a lightsaber combatant, force user, and manipulator. He's better in every way.

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If you think Sidious' feats fall short of people like Bane and Malgus, you clearly don't know any of Sidious' feats outside of the films.


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But they have no feats

Sidious is just better: as a lightsaber combatant, force user, and manipulator. He's better in every way.


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If you think Sidious' feats fall short of people like Bane and Malgus, you clearly don't know any of Sidious' feats outside of the films.


Any feats outside the Movies/Books are regarded as non canon since Disney took over.

Sidious movie feats fall short in comparison to Bane/Malgus/Revan/Plaeguis.


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Any feats outside the Movies/Books are regarded as non canon since Disney took over.

Sidious movie feats fall short in comparison to Bane/Malgus/Revan/Plaeguis.

Lmfao Bane/Malgus/Revan/Plagueis don't have any feats in Disney canon dude. All their feats are in the EU, so you have to use Sidious' EU feats (which are vastly superior) when comparing.

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Only books printed after Disney aquired the rights to in 2014 are canon. Plagueis and bane novels are explicitly non canon.

Anyway, Azronger from the star wars forum put together an excellent palpatine respect thread a little while ago. For anyone interested I'll post a link.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/star...thread-1877280/

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And Sidious is better just from movie feats anyways lol

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Lmfao Bane/Malgus/Revan/Plagueis don't have any feats in Disney canon dude. All their feats are in the EU, so you have to use Sidious' EU feats (which are vastly superior) when comparing.


Its obvious you havent understood what i was talking about al this long time.

I am comparing EU feats of Plaeguis/Bane/Malgus/Revan with Movie Sidious.

Why? Because there are theories that Disney is planning to use an Old Sith as Snoke. Therefore its possible that Disney makes EU feats of such Sith Canon. Get me?

Plaeguis was referenced in SW3 so he is canon.

Bane was referenced in the CW show so he is also Canon.

So Palpatine still shouldnt be considered the best.


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Lol it's not like Snoke would get their EU feats if it turns out he's one of them. Disney is completely scrapping the EU. What you originally said is that Malgus Bane and Plagueis are WAY STRONGER than Sidious. Which they aren't. EU feats or canon feats, Sidious is better.

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Any feats outside the Movies/Books are regarded as non canon since Disney took over.

Sidious movie feats fall short in comparison to Bane/Malgus/Revan/Plaeguis.



This was your argument the whole time? Comparing their EU feats to what we see Sidious do on-screen? What the actual f**k?


If they did make Snoke any one of those characters (which he isn't, by the way, and the theory that he could be any of those 3 characters is, quite frankly, retarded), why the hell would you think they would just give them all their EU feats in canon as well? Sidious doesn't have all of his EU feats in canon, this is a retarded argument you're making, honestly. Comparing EU to canon is stupid, what a waste of time. Stupid argument, stupid theory.


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This was your argument the whole time? Comparing their EU feats to what we see Sidious do on-screen? What the actual f**k?


If they did make Snoke any one of those characters (which he isn't, by the way, and the theory that he could be any of those 3 characters is, quite frankly, retarded), why the hell would you think they would just give them all their EU feats in canon as well? Sidious doesn't have all of his EU feats in canon, this is a retarded argument you're making, honestly. Comparing EU to canon is stupid, what a waste of time. Stupid argument, stupid theory.


Is it my fault you dont read properly?

By the way, Old Republic EU feats became Legends after Disney took over. Doesnt mean Disney cant canon the information later on. So the only one being stupid here is you.

Any feat from Sidious that happens outside the movies or after E6 are NON CANON due to the fact that the movies contradict such information.

For instance, the fact that Dark Empire happens after E6, but E7 contradicted that info means that Dark Empire is DEFINETLY non canon.

So again, limitting Sidious to movie feats only isnt stupid.

Next time read carefully before replying please.


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It doesn't matter because it's not canon now, so you can't compare any of it to Sidious. And even if you could, Sidious' canon feats still shit on their EU feats lmao. What have any of them done that compares to fighting equally with Yoda (and debatably beating him), blitzing 3 Jedi masters or beating Maul and Opress?

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Is it my fault you dont read properly?

By the way, Old Republic EU feats became Legends after Disney took over. Doesnt mean Disney cant canon the information later on. So the only one being stupid here is you.

Any feat from Sidious that happens outside the movies or after E6 are NON CANON due to the fact that the movies contradict such information.

For instance, the fact that Dark Empire happens after E6, but E7 contradicted that info means that Dark Empire is DEFINETLY non canon.

So again, limitting Sidious to movie feats only isnt stupid.

Next time read carefully before replying please.


You didn't make it clear in your first few posts, and the fact that that was your argument anyway doesn't make it any less stupid. Oh, don't worry, I won't be reading your posts from now on, you seem to have the mental capacity of a tree stump thumb up


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So, to sum up, the argument in favour of Sidious being superior is various canonical screen feats, statements and other bits of info. The argument for the other guys hedges on a fan theory being correct and assuming Disney will potentially assign currently non-canonical feats to people at some point in the future? Seems legit lol.


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So, to sum up, the argument in favour of Sidious being superior is various canonical screen feats, statements and other bits of info. The argument for the other guys hedges on a fan theory being correct and assuming Disney will potentially assign currently non-canonical feats to people at some point in the future? Seems legit lol.

Pretty much lol

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Spoiler alert!

Well one theory is that he is Sidious (If so, then Thanos wins).

But there are some intriguing theories that Snoke is actually a Darth Lord from the Old Republic.

Biggest bet is that he is Darth Bane.

I would personally aim at Darth Malgus.

Others say it is Darth Revan or Plagueis.

Any of who are WAY STRONGER than Sidious. We are talking about beings which could be even better than even Yoda.


This is my original post.

Trocity clearly cant read.


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You didn't make it clear in your first few posts, and the fact that that was your argument anyway doesn't make it any less stupid. Oh, don't worry, I won't be reading your posts from now on, you seem to have the mental capacity of a tree stump thumb up


I made it damn clear it was a theory.

A theory which implies Snoke being a Sith from Old Republic.

Which means that Disney could canonize Old Republic Information.

I was comparing Canon Sidious with Feats of Old Republic.

I repeat, read properly the next time you reply.


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So, to sum up, the argument in favour of Sidious being superior is various canonical screen feats, statements and other bits of info. The argument for the other guys hedges on a fan theory being correct and assuming Disney will potentially assign currently non-canonical feats to people at some point in the future? Seems legit lol.


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Pretty much lol


Yes. As i made it clear when i commented, one of the Theories aims at one of the Legendary Siths being taken out of legend.

All Old Republic info became Legends. They arent proven nor disproven.

Well on that aspect Sidious still isnt the Best Sith, since there are no Canon Sith feats previous to Darth Sidious.

So a comparisson is impossible in that matter. Not atleast until we get canon material. I hope that is when Snoke's identity is revealed.


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Isn't Sidious said to be the most powerful Sith Lord of all time on more than one occasion?

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Thanos laughs at Snoke for being a piss poor ripoff of Darth Sidious, and then slowly realizes that he himself is a ripoff of Darkseid.

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