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Pretty much everyone in Congress has been there Far Longer then Trump has been in the WH. THEY Do hold far more of the responsibility.


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So, I want 100% compliance. Either they do that or it's done.


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Yukiya Amano, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN’s nuclear watchdog, issued a statement restating the agency’s finding that Iran was abiding by its obligations.

So does anyone have a substantive reason for scrapping the deal and letting Iran return to producing nuclear weapons?


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Yukiya Amano, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN’s nuclear watchdog, issued a statement restating the agency’s finding that Iran was abiding by its obligations.

So does anyone have a substantive reason for scrapping the deal and letting Iran return to producing nuclear weapons?


I stopped paying attention to this quote when I saw the word "International".....that pretty much invalidated the whole sentence.


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Pretty much everyone in Congress has been there Far Longer then Trump has been in the WH. THEY Do hold far more of the responsibility.

That's not relevant here. Trump wants to enact a certain policy and has the power to do so and hence if he wants to enact it he should enact it and face the consequences.

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I stopped paying attention to this quote when I saw the word "International".....that pretty much invalidated the whole sentence.
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Yukiya Amano, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN’s nuclear watchdog, issued a statement restating the agency’s finding that Iran was abiding by its obligations.

So does anyone have a substantive reason for scrapping the deal and letting Iran return to producing nuclear weapons?


Isn't that the same place that Iran was rejecting an inspection from?

Does this mean Iran indeed allowed them to inspect their military sites? Well, I'm assuming so, since if not they surely wouldn't be telling people Iran is abiding by their obligations.


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There haven't been any serious breaches as far as I can tell.

Because he needs a new boogeyman to keep his supporters interested. sad


Even Trump's own people are saying Iran's been compliant.

Bingo. But the Trumpers will eat this up, they love having some new 'big bad' to focus on.


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Hmmm?!


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That's not relevant here. Trump wants to enact a certain policy and has the power to do so and hence if he wants to enact it he should enact it and face the consequences.
Clearly, he can scrap it if he wants.


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Isn't that the same place that Iran was rejecting an inspection from?

Does this mean Iran indeed allowed them to inspect their military sites? Well, I'm assuming so, since if not they surely wouldn't be telling people Iran is abiding by their obligations.
If nukes are being produced, you don't even need an inspection to know. There's a million signs, least of which would be picking up the radioactivity signatures

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If nukes are being produced, you don't even need an inspection to know. There's a million signs, least of which would be picking up the radioactivity signatures
But allow me to move the goal posts for a second and allude you to ideas like Iran's higher-ups are not to be trusted on merit alone.

No, not appearance.....maybe Iran's government is not suiting America's interest? Specifically, America first. That would be a completely sensible idea as to why the Iran deal was scrapped.


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But allow me to move the goal posts for a second and allude you to ideas like Iran's higher-ups are not to be trusted on merit alone.

No, not appearance.....maybe Iran's government is not suiting America's interest? Specifically, America first. That would be a completely sensible idea as to why the Iran deal was scrapped.
That may be true, but there’s no possible way to hide a nuclear program. If Iran isn’t cooperating with the agreement, we would know and so would the world.

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That may be true, but there’s no possible way to hide a nuclear program. If Iran isn’t cooperating with the agreement, we would know and so would the world.
Well, he did scrap the idea, didn't he?

My point is if Iran is complying with Trump's philosophy and policy then the deal would have gone through. I believe this deal was written under Obama? Trump has a different idea of how to negotiate with Iran. Unfortunately, our media has a tendency to portray Trump as an incompetent imbecile for not being Obama. So rather than, "Iran not up to standards," we read "Trump scraps Iran deal." As to whether I agree with Trump, well, I simply don't know. I'm not intelligent enough to know, nor am I qualified. Yet, after the complete embarassment of the media, I know not to trust everything, if not, anything they say.


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