Mr. Sheev Determination
Registered: Nov 2013
I (finally) went to see the movie with no expectations. I was convinced that this trilogy was dead and couldn’t be saved after TFA. So, I didn’t take it very seriously and enjoyed it as much as I can. This is why it is hard for me to compare it to TFA, as I had a much worse experience with that one. Beyond that, the movie still disturbed me on a serious level.
The way they butchered Luke is probably the most noticeable error in the story. They disregarded how ROTJ left things. The big picture in the original 6 films is that Luke is to become the Jedi that Anakin was supposed to. We already experienced the tragic twist of one Skywalker protagonist and and doing the same with Luke isn’t just unoriginal, it harms the thematic continuity of the story. They seem to be obsessed with replicating what we saw in the OT so much that it ironically led them to do things that harm the OT. More importantly, Luke doesn’t have the justifications that Kenobi, Anakin, Yoda etc. had. He is simply pathetic in this trilogy, where he should be at his prime in every sense (especially wisdom).
Their obsession with the OT, and in contrast the way they ignore the PT sealed this trilogy’s fate imo. They did this to such an extend that they even ignored the technological advancement that occurred after the OT. PT made use of it quite well despite its flaws but Disney didn’t think to notice that stuff like AT-ATs don’t make sense anymore (something so immobile in such high tech? I can dig it in an 80s film, but not in 2017). Even lightsaber fights were OT style, which is literally insane when you think about it. Heck, they made Yoda look exactly like he did in the OT, despite how weird he looks right now, in today’s light.
Rey’s horrible character wasn’t fixed one bit, and Rose was even more disturbing. She has no function in the story, and is just an ugly ornament. Her interference with Finn’s sacrifice was quite stupid too. They constantly went for these little twists as if this is a “Usual Suspects” type of movie where the delivery of the plot and the twist are the most important parts of the story. Star Wars is meant to be watched multiple times. It shares a very rich story from an even richer universe. The next time I watch the movie, %60 of it will feel like garbage scenes where a twist will just erase everything that happens right before.
I have absolutely no idea why Rey and Kylo are equals btw, when Kylo’s raw power should be second only to Luke, and has trained amongst other Jedi under Luke, and then under Snoke. Rey has nothing going for her. It’s really stupid, really. Her backstory is so irrelevant and stupid that I almost hoped that she is Palpatine’s daughter. At least that would explain her OPness and the whole “her fall is inevitable” thing.
In general, the super powers/Jedi stuff was also handled terribly. They tried so hard not to show any raw usage of the power in combat situation, and gave a bunch of weird abilities to people whos basic capabilities haven’t been established at all. The abundant use of esoteric shit in this movie was cancerous. We have no clue what a master level Force user in action really looks like but we saw all kinds of weird stuff going on in the film. Luke’s last stand was supposed to finally show us what he is capable of, but that was wasted by some more esoteric stuff. I understand not exposing the capabilities of these super power wielders for the sake of the story, but I’m not sure how replacing traditional use of the force with this crap helps anything.
I guess TFA is still the shittiest, but TLJ is definitely not that far beyond.