Or the Odin who looks no better then Loki or Thor against Surtur?
Father and sons, fighting together. All looking to keep up with each other.
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I was never one for buying into the "Darkseid = baddass" bandwagon.. For me, he didn't NEED to be. Classically, 'Seid used a damned gun and ran for his life from Orion, instead of engaging in a fight.
But he's also the guy who was so petty, he ruined Scott and Barda's wedding with bad weather, then laughed about it. Or killed Desaad, got near weepy about it, then brought him back.
Basically, he was more Joker with ambitions to rule, then Starlin Thanos. And that made him a lot more entertaining, imo..
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I implied that we have no idea what Darkseid killing the Gods consisted of, and it could very well be tech since his first appearance in the series was "killing" Izaya with a weapon designed to instantly kill. That's all.
Anyway, I figure you are perfectly capable of answering Odin's feats. Do you not?
The issue is I doubt anyone in your opposition has or will read Fourth World. Not only that, but I've seen it before used as a sort of thing to put DS far out of reach of Gods when the series said anything but at that point in time.
Not that I think people should read it since it's a mess. Bryne tried to emulate Kirby too much and it just jumps around and nothing even happens or things stop for largely no reason. Plus he made Tigra cuck Darkseid and turn Orion into a bastard child.
I don't care about Odin's feat though. But if you must, it is also off panel.
Is that implied anywhere or you're just pulling out of nowhere because?
But if DC Odin can scare away Darkseid from attacking Asgard, doesn't that means he is that powerful? Isn't that what you do for Marvel Odin and Galactus?
Because I doubt Byrne had any intention of showing new gods/other gods weak. He had Orion containing a bomb which was destroying the entire universe and Takion halting Godwave momentarily , Ares becoming as large as a promethean giant and absorbing Godwave
Or is it the same Superman Darkseid syndrome where anything that Superman does makes Darkseid weaker.
Of course Odin>Dark Gods >Perrikus>Odin.
This only shows marvel gods stronger but DC gods weaker.
All I said was that he wasn't way beyond other Gods in that series and it was entirely off panel besides his one attack against Izaya where he had tech capable of instantly killing Gods.
If you want to talk about how powerful the other Gods were, I'd be more than happy to, but don't do this to me:
I don't even know what Odin we're talking about in the top part.
Agreed with that though, or at least Odin was portrayed within Darkseid's realm. Odin was also implied to be above other Gods like Zeus and Ares there, or at least he was early on. Bryne kind of went all over the place though and the 5 finger fusion is unclear of why they fused.
We were speaking about Fourth World though guy. Though one kill does not speak about the thousands of years he did this. That must have been early though since he had his suit on.
In Fourth World everytime he was said to kill Gods he was stated to absorb the power. Which makes the distinction kind of needless, but still. He was also pillaging the worlds too.
The scan Fungi posted said he absorbed power though.
@phil. Yep it does
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Darkseid travels the universe battling and killing gods from other planets
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Darkseid with killing and absorbing the other gods is now strong enough to defeat the Earth Gods. Metron also mentions how Darkseid stole the power of the aliens God’s, and is the cause of the aliens sorrow.
That's why I asked, it doesn't really matter how he beat them, he still absorbed their power, and thus the end result is more powerful than all of them combined.
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True. I'm just stating the possibilities though, more the nature of the occurence.
I do think he used tech though, but I don't think it matters when speaking of his power.
He does kind of start out like a ***** though. It took him that long to get to above Odin level when he already absorbed the omega force to begin his conquest. Then again, Bryne.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Is this somehow about DC Odin being less powerful than marvel Odin and hence proving Darkseid was below Marvel Odin?
Because this is pointless otherwise.
And where is Rage anyway? I've not seen him trying to prove Odin as abstract level in this thread.
No. I just like talking about things in fullness, and figured you'd like to bounce back and forth feats to discuss Odin's/God power which proxies Darkseid's. Everyone in that story solo was implied to be below Darkseid, here's what they did, etc.
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