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Silent Master
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I don’t appreciate your interrogative tone. I was simply referring to the recession and will not “explain in detail” again. 2 words that describe you perfectly are pedantic and petty.


Of course you won't. because you can't.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You did exactly what Rob and others(including you) complain that Surtur does when people complain about Trump.


It's that leftist motto. Rules for thee, but not for me.

They apply it everywhere. It's okay to point out any lie Trump says, but how dare you point out lies about guns, don't you care about dead children?


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All Fly has done is try and take Solyndra off the list as a scandal, refusing to recognize it as a failure, and cast the blame on "Trump had five bankruptcy as a civilian" which completely means what Obama did, wasn't a failure.

Remember Fly has said numerous times everyone else is partisan here, but him.


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He's just upset with how utterly out of touch with reality Obama's comments show he is.


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Scandal would imply corruption or acting against the interests of the American people right? Under that definition, investing billions in loans to dozens of green energy ventures and having a few of them fail is not a scandal. Sure, you can say retrospectively that it was a mistake, but I don't see how it's a scandal.


I do view it as a very easy to label scandal. It was a pretty big deal back in the day and it was part of what got Democratic voters butthurt about Obama...and part of why many liberals protested Obama in the streets with signs that said "Bush 2.0."


To cover more details on why this is an easy scandal to put on Obama:



Here's some stuff on it:

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Obama referred to Solyndra’s loan at an Oct. 6 press conference as “a loan guarantee program that predates me.” That’s not accurate. It’s true that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 created a loan guarantee program for clean-energy companies developing “innovative technologies.” But Solyndra’s loan guarantee came under another program created by the president’s 2009 stimulus for companies developing “commercially available technologies.”

The president also overstated past Republican support for the program, saying “all of them in the past have been supportive of this loan guarantee program.” Republicans overwhelmingly opposed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, and some of them even voted against the Energy Policy Act of 2005 at a time when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress.

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Solyndra was the first company to receive a loan guarantee under either program. Since then, the program has helped nearly 40 projects at a cost of about $36 billion — mostly under section 1705. Jonathan Silver — the former director of the Energy Department’s loan office who recently resigned — testified that the section 1703 program did not generate much interest perhaps because start-up companies found “the potential self-pay credit subsidy cost to be prohibitive.”

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In the case of Solyndra, according to news reports, the company had drawn down all but about $8 million of its total loan allotment at the time that it announced it would file for bankruptcy.



https://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/o...lyndra-problem/



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4. The Solyndra controversy was elevated to a scandal when it was revealed that Office of Management and Budget officials felt pressured to approve the loan, despite an awareness of Solyndra's financial instability. ABC News reported, "The deal later came under scrutiny from independent government watch dogs and members of Congress, which said the administration had bypassed key taxpayer protections in a rush to approve the funds — claims the administration has denied."




Basically, Obama was trying to make a name for himself very quickly out of the gate. The purposefully did not take good advice. Obama lied. Bla bla bla. They went under because it as poorly managed. And we have the scandal.


https://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/o...lyndra-problem/




If you were to do this as a business, you'd get fired. Obviously. Which is part of why people were mad and protesting Obama in 2012. Some of the lying that Obama died and "washing away" to save his ego is very similar to what Trump is doing now. It's actually a bit weird reading things Obama said that are eerily close to the same things Trump says. Blame games. Trying to save face. Backdoor deals. Not listening to advice. Sounds a lot like Trump, doesn't it?


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