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Could American sweatshops be a good idea for orphans
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exploiting children for labor, but with oversight. what could go wrong.


Isn't this what the Democrats want for all those DACA kids?


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No. erm


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If the sweatshops are allowed to pay the children only in peanut butter and jelly sandwiches...I'm all for it.

After 3 years they can earn the right to a pillow and move on up to blankets from there.


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yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.


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yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.


Can't they just bring tutors to the sweatshop and tutor the kids on their 12 minute lunch breaks?


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yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.

It's not slave labor, they'd be getting paid, educated, and trained in a useful job skill that they volunteered for. I fully agree that the best possible thing for a foster child is to grow up in a nurturing house hold for for those who have that option I wouldn't even open the program to them. This wouldn't be for the kids who are easily placed in loving homes, it'd be for the 15 year olds that no one wants because of the attitude problems they've developed from being bounced around repeatedly and physically and/or sexually abused by someone in their foster families. Kids that are likely to end up as homeless runaways anyway.

I'm reasonably sure that the kids who spent years going through that kind of thing would agree with me that the option I'm talking about is better than forcing kids to stay in a system that allows for them to be repeatedly victimized.


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No. erm


Oh I forgot. You prefer Homosexual Sex Slave Shops.


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with 20% of our military budget we could probably just clone them all new parents.


Do you even know how underpaid a soldier is? Especially a brand new private?

A person working a 9-5 job makes more than an E-1. The only reason a private survives, is because the military gave them a place to live.

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yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.


Do you consider summer camps slave labors? After all, the kids are made to make stuff, wake up early, forced by their parents and staff to participate in craps they don’t want, like hiking, canoeing, art and crafts.

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Do you consider summer camps slave labors? After all, the kids are made to make stuff, wake up early, forced by their parents and staff to participate in craps they don’t want, like hiking, canoeing, art and crafts.

Forget summer camps, look at Military schools...


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Summer Camps main reason isn't to Entertain the Kids. Its to give the Parents a F-ing Break.


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Can't they just bring tutors to the sweatshop and tutor the kids on their 12 minute lunch breaks?


i loled.

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It's not slave labor, they'd be getting paid, educated, and trained in a useful job skill that they volunteered for. I fully agree that the best possible thing for a foster child is to grow up in a nurturing house hold for for those who have that option I wouldn't even open the program to them. This wouldn't be for the kids who are easily placed in loving homes, it'd be for the 15 year olds that no one wants because of the attitude problems they've developed from being bounced around repeatedly and physically and/or sexually abused by someone in their foster families. Kids that are likely to end up as homeless runaways anyway.

I'm reasonably sure that the kids who spent years going through that kind of thing would agree with me that the option I'm talking about is better than forcing kids to stay in a system that allows for them to be repeatedly victimized.


have you ever been in a group home, half-way house, etc? what you are basically describing is job corps which is already in place. Troubled ophans dont need a job they need a family. Use those resources to find a suitable home. Not some shit job.

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Do you even know how underpaid a soldier is? Especially a brand new private?

A person working a 9-5 job makes more than an E-1. The only reason a private survives, is because the military gave them a place to live.


this is false
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Do you consider summer camps slave labors? After all, the kids are made to make stuff, wake up early, forced by their parents and staff to participate in craps they don’t want, like hiking, canoeing, art and crafts.


and this is dumb.


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this is false

and this is dumb.


Are you in the military? I am.

A brand new private, an E-1 makes around 450 or so every two weeks, and around 1000 a month after taxes. The only reason that soldier is not living under the poverty line, is because the government gave you a meal card, free laundry, housing and free electricity. They also covers healthcare and dental.

So it’s not false.

As for you’re second part, why is it dumb? Most kids wants nothing to with camps, when they are indeed being force to do things they don’t want too.

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LoL @ the retards in here who are pushing for sweatshops/child labor.


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LoL @ the retards in here who are pushing for sweatshops/child labor.


Much better to just Abort them all and just end the hassle before it starts. Huh robbie?


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Are you in the military? I am.

A brand new private, an E-1 makes around 450 or so every two weeks, and around 1000 a month after taxes. The only reason that soldier is not living under the poverty line, is because the government gave you a meal card, free laundry, housing and free electricity. They also covers healthcare and dental.

So it’s not false.

As for you’re second part, why is it dumb? Most kids wants nothing to with camps, when they are indeed being force to do things they don’t want too.


i was i retired

a brand new e1 makes about 19000 a year. divide that by 2080 and he makes about 9.25 an hour. Minimum wage is 7.25 (in texas,sc where army/marine/airforce basic training is) and 8.25 in illinois (where navy boot camp is) so not your first statement was wrong. add in the fact that most new enlisted soldiers get promoted twice AUTOMATICALLY within that first year (unless they phuck up) they wont be sitting at 9.25 for long. add in free medical, free dental, life insurance and dependents they make wayyyyyy more.

second part youre comparing forced fun with forced labor


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i was i retired

a brand new e1 makes about 19000 a year. divide that by 2080 and he makes about 9.25 an hour. Minimum wage is 7.25 (in texas,sc where army/marine/airforce basic training is) and 8.25 in illinois (where navy boot camp is) so not your first statement was wrong. add in the fact that most new enlisted soldiers get promoted twice AUTOMATICALLY within that first year (unless they phuck up) they wont be sitting at 9.25 for long. add in free medical, free dental, life insurance and dependents they make wayyyyyy more.

second part youre comparing forced fun with forced labor


Concise and accurate post thumb up

But your facts can't compete with feelings and playing victim. Sorry.


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Concise and accurate post thumb up

But your facts can't compete with feelings and playing victim. Sorry.


i suppose. just have to shutdown false narratives. Enlisted dont get paid as much as officers but the do get paid well considering they are fresh out of high school with no college education. Everything from clothing to housing to food is free. Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck.

as far as the kids labor thing goes i wish people would place themselves in those circumstances rather than spewing stuff they don't know about.


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i suppose. just have to shutdown false narratives. Enlisted dont get paid as much as officers but the do get paid well considering they are fresh out of high school with no college education. Everything from clothing to housing to food is free. Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck.

as far as the kids labor thing goes i wish people would place themselves in those circumstances rather than spewing stuff they don't know about.


Oh, I know. I've never served and I knew all of that. Even if I just had free medical that would be a nice chunk of cash back in my pocket every month. Perks like free med, dental, housing, meals, marriage exceptions, child exceptions etc., all need to be factored in when comparing the wages of a soldier who gets that and a civilian who doesn't if we're being accurate/honest. Even if they both make $12.00 an hour, the grunt has less overhead chipping away at their earnings. As you said "Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck."


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If only we still needed newsies we'd have a place for these orphans.


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