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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fallen One Surfer with Mjolnir would annihilate like 5 Primes. He was beating down King Thanos who's basically a cosmic entity.

Current Surfer with Mjolnir is a different animal most likely. A much closer fight than regular Surfer vs. Prime, but Prime would get the nod from me.

Terrible idea. The moment he utilizes energy attacks, Surfer could easily drain Prime of all his energy, leaving him powerless.

Prime breaks mjolnir and breaks Surfer.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Prime breaks mjolnir and breaks Surfer.

No to the first, probably to the second.

Fallen One is way beyond Prime however.

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abhilegend
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No to the first, probably to the second.

Fallen One is way beyond Prime however.

No, he breaks both.

How is fallen one beyond Prime?

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No to the first, probably to the second.

Yes to both. The Sun destroyed Mangog and Mjolnir. SBP > Sun.

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Yes to both. The Sun destroyed Mangog and Mjolnir. SBP > Sun.

How is he greater than the sun?

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How is he greater than the sun?

Because he flew through a red sun and was fine. Survived a universal explosion. D

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he breaks both.

How is fallen one beyond Prime?

Prime can break Mjolnir? You're insane.

Fallen One is way more powerful than Prime. He was fighting evenly with King Thanos who had grown beyond cosmic level entities. He literally slaughtered the entire Marvel hierarchy, everyone from Galactus to Surtur (Off panel). How is this even a debate?

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Mar 22nd, 2018 04:09 AM

Rage.Of.Olympus
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Yes to both. The Sun destroyed Mangog and Mjolnir. SBP > Sun.

Silly rabbit. Mjolnir isn't destroyed, don't be dense. It's fine in the future literally two issues from now...And Mangog survived the Sun in that very issue. It was never said Mangog was destroyed...

This is Mjolnir. You think it was destroyed off panel in a throw away? How...how does that even seem likely based on what we know of comics?

Why are you acting like a noob?

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Mar 22nd, 2018 04:11 AM

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But Thor pretty much said it

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abhilegend
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Prime can break Mjolnir? You're insane.

He can break the armor of Monarch and 300 miles of GL willpower along with force field of brainiac 5.

Mjolnir is putty in his hands.

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Fallen One is way more powerful than Prime. He was fighting evenly with King Thanos who had grown beyond cosmic level entities. He literally slaughtered the entire Marvel hierarchy, everyone from Galactus to Surtur (Off panel). How is this even a debate?

So, King Thanos needs Surtur's sword to fight Surfer with mjolnir and got his ass kicked but we can attribute him killing cosmic entities as his own power?

Surtur is a cosmic entity now, eh?

Surfer explicitly stated that he was only becoming worthy of mjolnir in that time. No other power ups were even mentioned.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Silly rabbit. Mjolnir isn't destroyed, don't be dense. It's fine in the future literally two issues from now...And Mangog survived the Sun in that very issue. It was never said Mangog was destroyed...

This is Mjolnir. You think it was destroyed off panel in a throw away? How...how does that even seem likely based on what we know of comics?

Why are you acting like a noob?

The hammer can be reforged in future but basing off everything, its definitely destroyed.

We even see the storm coming off sun as mjolnir plunges into the sun.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O5n-7_2CI...1600/RCO018.jpg

That and Odinson saying mjolnir was killed seals the deal.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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But Thor pretty much said it

Thor and the Gods have been partially autistic since Jane received Mjolnir, I agree. It's like...watching Aquaman diving into the ocean, and being worried he'll drown.

Hopefully he meant in a symbolic way?

#1 of the new Thor series will have a short story of King Thor in the future with Mjolnir.

My personally theory? He wrote himself into a corner with the whisper and Motherstorm thing. Why is Jane worthy? Never addressed.

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Mar 22nd, 2018 04:29 AM

celeyhyga17
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Plot device was Gleipnir. Think Sentry and the giant worm. He already jumped out of the sun from his first bathing.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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The hammer can be reforged in future but basing off everything, its definitely destroyed.

We even see the storm coming off sun as mjolnir plunges into the sun.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O5n-7_2CI...1600/RCO018.jpg

That and Odinson saying mjolnir was killed seals the deal.

Hmmm, maybe. We'll see.

You're dumb. Mentioning the Mother Storm hurts your argument. It's the first storm of Creation. The last time Jane Foster let it loose, it's lightning stretched across Galaxies and was many times larger than a Supernova. How is a little rumble of thunder the same? I think we'd notice if it got loose.

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Thor #12:
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Uru (The toughest metal in creation, remnant from the rock of creation) and the Motherstorm, the first tempest.

I highly doubt they were destroyed by the Sun. If they actually were, well, damn.

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Mar 22nd, 2018 04:37 AM

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Was that always the origin of Uru?

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abhilegend
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Hmmm, maybe. We'll see.

You're dumb. Mentioning the Mother Storm hurts your argument. It's the first storm of Creation. The last time Jane Foster let it loose, it's lightning stretched across Galaxies and was many times larger than a Supernova. How is a little rumble of thunder the same? I think we'd notice if it got loose.

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Thor #12:
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Uru (The toughest metal in creation, remnant from the rock of creation) and the Motherstorm, the first tempest.

I highly doubt they were destroyed by the Sun. If they actually were, well, damn.

Complain to Aaron if you want.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor and the Gods have been partially autistic since Jane received Mjolnir, I agree. It's like...watching Aquaman diving into the ocean, and being worried he'll drown.

Hopefully he meant in a symbolic way?

#1 of the new Thor series will have a short story of King Thor in the future with Mjolnir.

My personally theory? He wrote himself into a corner with the whisper and Motherstorm thing. Why is Jane worthy? Never addressed.

Thor has more scenes of being endangered by sun than being like Aquaman of the suns.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Complain to Aaron if you want.

So, the most recent showing of a character, overrides all past showings, even if it stands as an extreme outlier?

For example: do you now stand behind the idea that Mjolnir's durability tops out at the Sun?

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