'Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone.' is not explicit, something being bent back is just a rhetorical way of saying its being pushed back.
Nor is it shown happening in the movie. The literal opposite is, actually. Mace is constantly able to push his lightsaber forwards towards Sidious. I assume you mean when the prop wobbles in Jacksons hand a bit, in which case lol.
Besides which when Satele grabs Malgus' lightsaber the physical strain of him pushing it towards her actually cracks the blade so it really wouldn't be that impressive even if this myth were true (it isn't).
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Jar Jar gives a small hint to it when he gives Sheev emergency power.
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The novel also has Mace pushing against Sidious, lal, the're no difference here. The movie has the lightsaber blade bend towards Mace as the novel describes. I'm not going to accept "prop wobble" as an explanation without proof.
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Sorry, but Mace's physically amplified strength does not exert more power than Sidious's lightning, this is common sense.
-> Matching something for a second <<<<<<< Overpowering something for a duration of time.
The feat you cited isn't in the same league as what Palpatine did.
You've done it for me:
This feats beat any feat of a similar kind Valk has to offer, hence saying Palp is inferior in this regard to Unuthul is pointless.
What? No, there can be parity between users, but that doens't remotely imply their's parity between what the attacks do. The greatest environmental lightning feat is setting a landscape ablaze. Even second tier tk showings have more impressive effects on the enviroment/ Lightning and tk serve different purposes. Lightning is an option to use against opponents you can't just tk as they're too close to you. Lightning is also a constant attack that can be used to constantly subdue while TK is a one off baring a significant power gap. The reason why i've compred sids and valk on each power separately is because cross power comparisons rarely work out so well. Eitherhow, as Valk has nothing in the league of Palp's tk showings, this tangent is rather pointless.
I just checked it and it doesn't so that's a flat out lie.
No it doesn't. I just watched the scene in slow-mo on youtube and it wobbles back and forth as he moves it. So maybe try explaining how Sheevs lightning also bends it towards him as well if you will.
Do you even know how they do the lightsaber effects in the movie? The prop is a long plastic tube that they CGI the effect over later. If the blade wobbles in the movie, the prop must also have wobbled in Jacksons hand since that's how the effect works. QED.
1. No, it shows the Mace can at least counter the strain of the force lightning via his lightsaber. Generally when a person is over whelmed physically, it gets blown away.
2.Facepalm, you don't really grasp what is occurring.(It's not a great feat FYI) And in no way is that close to ending a Dark council of 9 sith Lords within a flash.(Obviously referencing his lightning, as that is his primary offensive skill.
3.Razing a planets surface>>>>>Bending back a barrage of turbolasers. It was done via his own personal power. And just please don't go off on a tangent, saying stuff like, b-but, Valkorian hasn't shown this level of strength via Telekinesis, it's a stupid argument. You can nearly always scale the level of tk they have, via the feats they have done. Otherwise you would have planet razors barely being able to life ships.
4.what.... I was referring to parity in terms of energy between attacks(Lightning,Tk) e.g. you fire a canon at a concrete wall it goes right through(this is telekensis, over whelming opponents force Barrier.) you then proceed to through a basketball, at a rebuilt wall, it will bounce off, because it did not have enough force to break the wall(Barrier).(this is force lightning in your opinion.) I'm saying the lightning has to be as potent as the TK to break through the barrier. even though it's not shown to be as impressive, with affects on the environment.
This has nothing to do with the blade bending lal. Sidious's lightning has more power than Mace's arms, hence your claim Mace's arms are what caused the blade to bend are nonsense.
You've reverting to back to unsupported claims to cover how weak your reasoning is. We're done here.
3.Razing a planets surface>>>>>Bending back a barrage of turbolasers. It was done via his own personal power. [/quote]it's good Valk never did that with lightning lal.
Valk's inability to affect planets with tk or lighting renders this assertion of yours nonsense.
However, say we act like powers have the same effects, Sidious shifting the balance of the force himself or Plagy telepathically reaching out to everyone in the galaxy are far more impressive than razing a planet.
Not to mention that Sidious has showcased vastly more impressive showings in pretty much everything save for the one straw you're grasping to, force drain.
Hasch decided to focus only on the lightning feat i mentioned while neglecting all the others shifting this to a lightning only discussion. Now he's cheating and trying to force tk and drain comparisons, but I never made any comparison outside of lightning comparisons after Hasch's shift.
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1. My claim is that the lightsaber started to bend from the force applied from both Mace/Sidious's lightning pushing against each other. It's not hard to grasp.
2.We are because you don't grasp how energy works.
3.You brought up unuthuls Turbo Lazer feat which is completely irrelevant when claiming unu thul>Valkorian, that has nothing to do with lightning. So I brought up Valkorion's planet razing feat as a counter, in terms of power.
I haven't seen a good rebuttal to EoTPM Sidious's unbalancing feat, which strikes me as the most potent demonstration of power to that point in galactic history.
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Plagueis' death sends ripples through the Force and somehow that's Palpatine's feat/power?
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She talks when those voices cheered Palpatine's name(it was in his head)
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