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Her shattered god feat is better than any gladiator speed feat I can think of.

Supergirl also transcribed like quadrillion of lines of code in a literal eye blink. That is a massively massively ftl speed feat. Far better than anything I can think of for Gladiator as well

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...hor-15-1851547/

Also Heimdall tanked that which taking Gladiator's strength out of the equation still makes him way more durable than Thor.

Gladiator's crazy feats always get balanced out.


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Originally posted by CosmicComet
Her shattered god feat is better than any gladiator speed feat I can think of.

Supergirl also transcribed like quadrillion of lines of code in a literal eye blink. That is a massively massively ftl speed feat. Far better than anything I can think of for Gladiator as well


I've been meaning to ask about that speed feat of Supergirl, what's the calc on it?

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Gladiator's interaction with the Fantastic Four and the Avengers without the use of hyper-time gear and his other random speed feats such as crossing galaxies in the blink of Heimdall's eyes make him on paper waaaaay faster than Diana. He has true, sustainable light speed similar to Flash and Superman. Diana is more skilled imo and has incredibly reflexes, those two with experience and timing means she would compete in a fight, but her usual speed advantage is nullified here.


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Gladiator's interaction with the Fantastic Four and the Avengers without the use of hyper-time gear and his other random speed feats such as crossing galaxies in the blink of Heimdall's eyes make him far faster than Diana. Not sure how it's even a contest. He has true, sustainable ftl speed. Diana is more skilled imo and has incredibly reflexes, and so she could compete in a fight, but her usual speed advantage is nullified here.


Wait till Carver schools you on WW's speed feats.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator's interaction with the Fantastic Four and the Avengers without the use of hyper-time gear and his other random speed feats such as crossing galaxies in the blink of Heimdall's eyes make him on paper waaaaay faster than Diana. He has true, sustainable light speed similar to Flash and Superman. Diana is more skilled imo and has incredibly reflexes, those two with experience and timing means she would compete in a fight, but her usual speed advantage is nullified here.


Travel speed has no correlation with combat speed.
Its all about perception and the speed of movement within the perception.
Glads can not move or attack at speeds faster than light within battle field distance. He can only reach ftl speeds from a larger distance. Diana has easily reacted to light speed attacks.
Alternate versions of Gladiator isn't allowed.


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That's gotta be part combat speed no? I mean to target and land a blow on such a small point(Heimdall) at such speeds needs some nuance I would think.


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What are Glads best combat speed feats? Do they stack up to Diana's?

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Originally posted by h1a8
Travel speed has no correlation with combat speed.
Its all about perception and the speed of movement within the perception.
Glads can not move or attack at speeds faster than light within battle field distance. He can only reach ftl speeds from a larger distance. Diana has easily reacted to light speed attacks.
Alternate versions of Gladiator isn't allowed.


Travel speed? He struck Heimdall, accurately, an infinitesimal target on a slightly less infinitesimal moving target of Asgardia....what is that if not perception...? He wasn't piloting a ship through hyperspace with programmed directions to a planet. The latter is traveling speed, the former is the definition of combat speed, because he can hit Diana with pin-point accuracy and able to adjust to any movement she makes on the fly while moving at speeds where she would be standing still most likely.

I think it's a very accurate representation of Walter's Gladiator and fair game but that's fair.


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Travel speed? He struck Heimdall, accurately, an infinitesimal target on a slightly less infinitesimal moving target of Asgardia....what is that if not perception...? He wasn't piloting a ship through hyperspace with per-programmed directions to a planet. The latter is traveling speed, the former is the definition of combat speed, because he can hit Diana with pin-point accuracy while moving at speeds she'd be standing still.

I think it's a very accurate representation of Walter's Gladiator and fair game.
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Travel speed? He struck Heimdall, accurately, an infinitesimal target on a slightly less infinitesimal moving target of Asgardia....what is that if not perception...? He wasn't piloting a ship through hyperspace with programmed directions to a planet. The latter is traveling speed, the former is the definition of combat speed, because he can hit Diana with pin-point accuracy and able to adjust to any movement she makes on the fly while moving at speeds where she would be standing still most likely.

I think it's a very accurate representation of Walter's Gladiator and fair game but that's fair.


How does his speed compare to shards of the Shattered God?

Honest q, btw. Not trying to entrap or whatever.


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Explain shattered god feat again. I remember her blocking countless shards.


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How does his speed compare to shards of the Shattered God?

Honest q, btw. Not trying to entrap or whatever.


wouldn't the shattered god feat be an outlier, no? I mean that feat is arguably faster than wally, and Superman own speed feats

iirc it was calced in the quadrillions

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How does his speed compare to shards of the Shattered God?

Honest q, btw. Not trying to entrap or whatever.


When she blocked the incoming projectiles? IIRC they were moving faster than light from all directions and were ridiculously small, which makes it a ridiculous speed feat imo but IMHO?

Gladiator is the type of character, where he could move so fast, the Shattered God pieces would be standing still to him and would not require a combination of blocking, timing and reflexes to deflect. Just sheer, raw speed. Only real speedsters or flying bricks like Superman are able to do that.

But like I said earlier, Wonder Woman herself is so fast, that combined with her reflexes and skill, it doesn't matter if Gladiator is faster, because she's fast enough to fight Superman, Zoom, the Flash etc. just fine.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Explain shattered god feat again. I remember her blocking countless shards.


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wouldn't the shattered god feat be an outlier, no? I mean that feat is arguably faster than wally, and Superman own speed feats

iirc it was calced in the quadrillions


A refresher:
https://imgur.com/a/5dOoi

They could also change direction mid-flight:
http://i.imgur.com/fqGnFrQ.png

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When she blocked the incoming projectiles? IIRC they were moving faster than light from all directions and were ridiculously small, which makes it a ridiculous speed feat imo but IMHO?

Gladiator is the type of character, where he could move so fast, the Shattered God pieces would be standing still to him and would not require a combination of blocking, timing and reflexes to deflect. Just sheer, raw speed. Only real speedsters or flying bricks like Superman are able to do that.

But like I said earlier, Wonder Woman herself is so fast, that combined with her reflexes and skill, it doesn't matter if Gladiator is faster, because she's fast enough to fight Superman, Zoom, the Flash etc. just fine.


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The Shattered God feat is even more unquantifiable than anything else in this thread unless you assume they moved at light speed.

The Shattered God had absorbed a bunch of it's essence over the years so what remained that he called was a smaller portion of it. It's unlikely that the pieces from the universe had moved there instantly as he was constantly drawing on more even up to him being shattered. But then it also makes sense that he did call on it at very high speeds as he acquired a lot and was getting stronger with each passing second.

Even if you assume lightspeed it is a crazy feat. Far and away her best combat speed. If you assume he summoned what remained of his body and those pieces traversed the universe, it's probably the best combat speed in comics by far. Wonder Woman was able to run away from them with travel speed though.

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speed is a wash in any event imo. strength is a wash. skill goes to diana and i think durability might go her way too or be close enough not to matter. she has a far greater will than he does though imo. see her fight vs the gorgon when she was blinded. crazy. and her fight against genocide was pretty incredible. and while she doesn't have any weapons per say, i'd think her tiara would still be fair game maybe, and that alone could possibly end him. intangibles go to her, while physicals are pretty close to even across the board.


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The Shattered God feat is even more unquantifiable than anything else in this thread unless you assume they moved at light speed.

The Shattered God had absorbed a bunch of it's essence over the years so what remained that he called was a smaller portion of it. It's unlikely that the pieces from the universe had moved there instantly as he was constantly drawing on more even up to him being shattered. But then it also makes sense that he did call on it at very high speeds as he acquired a lot and was getting stronger with each passing second.

Even if you assume lightspeed it is a crazy feat. Far and away her best combat speed. If you assume he summoned what remained of his body and those pieces traversed the universe, it's probably the best combat speed in comics by far. Wonder Woman was able to run away from them with travel speed though.

Who the **** knows


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Originally posted by h1a8
Travel speed has no correlation with combat speed.
Its all about perception and the speed of movement within the perception.
Glads can not move or attack at speeds faster than light within battle field distance. He can only reach ftl speeds from a larger distance. Diana has easily reacted to light speed attacks.
Alternate versions of Gladiator isn't allowed.
Gladiator unearthed a machine at near light speed and the machine was less than 10 yards away from him.WW nor superman can do that.


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Superman can do that with his eyes closed.

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Superman can do that with his eyes closed.
So can blob by word of mouth. Kindly show superman doing it from less that 10 yards away and I will show you blob doing it.


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