You went off topic Quan. Morgoth has nothing to do with movie Sauron and I don't even know if he's canon in the movieverse, let alone has feats.
You're throwing random irrelevant things at the wrong person Quan. Fact remains that Morgoth wildly varies depending on who you ask or what you choose to accept. "Sidious fanboys" has nothing to do with that.
He is canon since his name was referenced in Battle of the Five Armies. That’s why I tend to debate with characters from films and cgi since we can quantify their feats without reading hyperbole off a book page. The Sidious who exists in the films gets waxed by the Sauron who exists in the film. That’s why I went there. I’m most wise.
I like throwing salt into the Sidious fanboys wounds.
His name was referenced in the five armies. We don’t see him hence why I argued movie Sauron vs. movie Sidious. Books tend to get wanked via the hyperbole.
So would you say that it's possible to misinterpret what Morgoth has done in a book and end up at a different viewpoint than what another reader has came to?
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Morgoth at "full power" is a transcendent being who can bring metaphysical concepts like discord into being by his will and shape Arda and the cosmos beyond. That guy would stomp, if indeed a fight could be had between something so vast and something so small.
After taking physical form Morgoth's power depends a lot on how you interpret Tolkien, which Bran in particular touched on. If one thinks of the cosmos of Tolkien's work as being the same as our own, one could feasibly argue Morgoth even at weaker levels is mightier than beings who control all of space and all the stars in the universe.
I personally think that interpretation is bogus though. It is wildly inconsistent with everything else we see in the setting. One would imagine that if the Ainur were tossing out universe busting powers quite a bit more than a continent would have been devastated in the War of Wrath.
All right, so you are going off of his strongest point after being referred to as Morgoth? He was named as such by Feanor, so any feat after there should count for him.
Palpatine could very well phuck that boy up, and I'm not going to try to recall feats that happened after that. I do recall him laying waste to a valley with a torrent of fire IIRC before fighting Fingolfin, but that's about it.
Another big issue is a relative lack of speed feats among LotR's terrestrial characters.
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