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StiltmanFTW
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Agreed, steve thumb up

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It turns out to be the prehistoric Star Wars galaxy, where they become enslaved, discover the Force, and lead an uprising where one of them becomes the first Jedi. That guy (spoiler alert) dies and is posthumously referred to as “the Skywalker” because he was able to levitate.


Source (not Oliver): https://www.vulture.com/2019/04/wha...alker-mean.html

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That’s kinda idiotic if you ask me.

It should have been the ghost of Anakin and Luke coming back and training Rey, and Rey finding out she’s a Skywalker and Luke’s daughter.

That would make more sense, as in she is rising to uphold and creating a new line of Skywalkers.

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Star Wars had been shit since Return of the Jedi. I was 16 then.


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George Lucas's true Feelings Towards Disney Star Wars

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2019...llow-his-plots/


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"We’d intentionally created a world that was visually and tonally connected to the earlier films, to not stray too far from what people loved and expected, and George was criticizing us for the very thing we were trying to do."

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No shit. Say what you want about Lucas, but the guy is creative and he wanted to expand the story not just do a retread of it...

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Originally posted by Kazenji
George Lucas's true Feelings Towards Disney Star Wars

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2019...llow-his-plots/


Can’t say I’m surprised


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Let's hope they put up more of a fight then Snoke's guardsmen.


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So why did George Lucas sell Star Wars, only to write an outline for 3 sequel films, and then get upset that Disney didn't use them? If he wanted those films to be made... could've just made them and not sold the franchise.

The reason of course was money. If one of the biggest entertainment corporations in the world offered one enough money to retire for life in exchange for an intellectual property, most wouldn't say no, but not having one's vision seen through to the end is kinda the most tragic thing to befall any visionary, regardless of money.

At this point through, I'm beyond sympathy. There there Georgie, wipe your tears away with a few billion dollars.


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Originally posted by ares834
"We’d intentionally created a world that was visually and tonally connected to the earlier films, to not stray too far from what people loved and expected, and George was criticizing us for the very thing we were trying to do."

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No shit. Say what you want about Lucas, but the guy is creative and he wanted to expand the story not just do a retread of it...


Yeah plus they retreaded old ground so much, that as a sequel it made no sense.

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So why did George Lucas sell Star Wars, only to write an outline for 3 sequel films, and then get upset that Disney didn't use them? If he wanted those films to be made... could've just made them and not sold the franchise.

The reason of course was money. If one of the biggest entertainment corporations in the world offered one enough money to retire for life in exchange for an intellectual property, most wouldn't say no, but not having one's vision seen through to the end is kinda the most tragic thing to befall any visionary, regardless of money.

At this point through, I'm beyond sympathy. There there Georgie, wipe your tears away with a few billion dollars.



Oh please can you blame him for not wanting to make another trilogy after the stick so many fans and critics gave him for ROTJ and the Prequels.

Storytelling was his strong suit, but directing and dialogue wasnt. Disney would have been wise to use his story. It at least would have been a cohesive trilogy that way, would have been something new, mixed with the right amount of nostalgia. Plus Kassdan could have still scripted it, and Abrams directed. Could have been Best of both worlds.

Problem was Disney was arrogant enough to think they didnt any major input from Lucas to do Star Wars.

Also does sound a bit dickish, because he must have spent time on those storyboards, and sold it as part of a package. They should have just been straight with him and said, Theres no way we will use your storyboards... Which they knew they wouldnt.... But then he may not have sold it to them.

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it is thoroughly unethical to smear a company along with its buyer after you cut a deal and sold it to them. Indefensible.


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it is thoroughly unethical to smear a company along with its buyer after you cut a deal and sold it to them. Indefensible.



Urm... Lucas didnt say anything. Hes pretty much kept his mouth shut.

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then why/how are we even discussing this? seriously, take the fanboy blinders off. he's been smearing disney from day one with "white slavers" and he still hasn't stopped thumb down


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I mean, it's pretty ironic how some take it as "OMG Star Wars is truly ruined if Lucas is sad!", when the whole fandom agreed the prequels weren't great because Lucas had way too much control, when compared to the OT. Now it's just "hur hur Disney bad!". There's always a bigger fish (to blame).

Agree with everything else said though.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it is thoroughly unethical to smear a company along with its buyer after you cut a deal and sold it to them. Indefensible.


He never has. Even though they deserved it.

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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
So why did George Lucas sell Star Wars, only to write an outline for 3 sequel films, and then get upset that Disney didn't use them? If he wanted those films to be made... could've just made them and not sold the franchise.

The reason of course was money. If one of the biggest entertainment corporations in the world offered one enough money to retire for life in exchange for an intellectual property, most wouldn't say no, but not having one's vision seen through to the end is kinda the most tragic thing to befall any visionary, regardless of money.


Wrong. He donated all the money he got from the sellout.

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That kinda makes selling the IP even more pointless on his behalf, though points for selflessness I guess.


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if anyone wishes to actually challenge my point in a mature manner, instead of denying documented facts, I'll be happy to reply. If this was any other business and the seller pulled the same stunts, they would have the pants sued off of them; and even a halfwit lawyer with a community college degree would easily win the case in the buyer's favor. GL knew that he was safe from this, because of the PR nightmare it would create for Disney. he has no honor or sense of basic business ethics at all


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How did Lucas "smear" them?


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How did Lucas "smear" them?


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That's just it, he hasn't. He has said, publicly, maybe two or three negative things about the films. Far from a smear campaign.

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