Palpatine raped Vader with almost no visible effort whatsoever(literal finger flicks and casual hand gestures) -- it was reminiscent of the ease in which Snoke clowned Rey in TLJ. Granted Vader was emotionally compromised, but I still think the gap between them is larger than 20% if this issue was even a remote indicator of how an all-out fight between them would play-out.
On the lightning note: Vader was still able to advance all the way up the stairwell, despite Palpatine's lightning barrage bypassing his saber and directly contacting him... So there's that. /shrug
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Lucas holds Vader to be weaker than Qui-Gon or Maul and indicates he could instantly be killed by Palpatine. The gap in Legends is way bigger for sure.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Oct 19th, 2020 at 07:54 PM
Canon started off very promising -- most of the stuff that was released(aside from the films lulz) was enjoyable. But the overall quality has taken a pretty sharp nosedive over the last few years. There's still some great canon material being produced, but it's certainly not a prevalent as at was at the beginning.
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Not saying I disagree that some of the canon stuff released was often quite poor (especially the ST), but why Vader being below Jinn or Maul is inherently a good thing?
Last edited by Darthadi on Oct 19th, 2020 at 08:21 PM
He doesn't have to be below Jinn for that.
I believe he still lost his Father tier potential even in canon (after all Palpatine wanted to replace him with Luke) as well as his humanity and all his loved ones. He is also trapped in a life support suit for the rest of his life while being Palpatine's slave.
I would say the pact with the devil still costed him dearly and the last comic couldn't make this more clear.
Last edited by Darthadi on Oct 19th, 2020 at 08:38 PM
Anakin before being mauled was growing so fast that he would've soon surpassed Sidious himself. As Darth Vader instead, he never managed to surpass the emperor in 20+ years. Hell, Sidious may overal have even grown more than him in power. He surely wasn't as gifted as he was before the suit
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I assume because of Vader's potentials. Palpatine only gave Vader very limited knowledge of dark side so it is reasonable Palpatine never let vader know his real plans
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I'm assuming now that Vader has the wayfinder, he'll travel to Exegol and discover Palapatine's "secret".
And if Vader figures out that Palpatine has clone bodies waiting to receive his essence, it really muddies the waters in terms of him "killing" Palps in RotJ. Like, if Vader knew that Palpatine was potentially going to hop into another vessel, why wouldn't he have let Luke know?
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